Indianapolis Colts held Peyton Manning back

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:what: BUT THAT DEFENSE DID WIN HIM A TITLE...

HES THE ONLY QB TO EVER THROW MORE INT THAN TDS ON A SUPER BOWL RUN.

HE WAS MEDIOCRE AS fukk IN THAT PLAYOFF RUN
JUST LIKE NOW.
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yup

Manning had Bob Sanders, Freeney, Bethea, Mathis etc. when he won the Super Bowl
 

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It's not really a question of the team holding him back, the breaks just fell his way this time

Hell he was just in this situation a couple of years ago and Moore lets Flacco throw the ball over his head..
 

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Real shyt. He always had a great offense but whenever he needed his defense to come up big, they didn't (sans the SB win). Imagine if he had Bob Sanders every year of his prime :wow:


Too bad the coaching staff never loaded up the defense aside from Freeney/Mathis/Bethea
They played with a bunch of small, fast players in a cover 2 shell that was designed to play while ahead, pressuring the QB off the edge and not giving up big plays.

But whenever their offense sputtered they got mauled. It was a flawed design.
 
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Nah this thread ain't as dumb as it seems at first glance. The Colts wasted a lot of Peyton's prime playing that light ass chickenshyt cover 2. He's got some riders on defense now.

The revisionist history is insulting...

The Cover 2 basically had Tampa Bay a contender with virtually no offense for about 4 years until they won the ship in 02

Cover 2 covered Peyton's ass in the playoffs where he was wildly inefficient that first super bowl .....(Bob Sanders Got Healthy :whew:)

Irsay\Polian was spending wild money on the offensive side of the ball which allowed Peyton to become the Peyton we know today.... which left Dungy with the task of putting a defense together for the cheap.....

and I wanna say he still had a top 10 defense at least half of the years he coached in Indy..

Black history month approaching and yall still don't do the knowledge.... :wow:
 

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The ONE year they were good. That should tell you something. Aside from that he had poor defenses in Indy.
Manning has gone 1 and done with multiple top 10 defenses, what are you talking about? You know what the difference between Brady and Manning is? Brady puts up a fight even when his defense is bad, Manning gets blown out and does nothing on offense.

Tom Brady just got hit 20x the most of any player in any game in the NFL this season, regular season or playoffs and somehow had the Pats in position to win. If that's Peyton Manning he loses by 30. This is a team game, but let's not act like Manning was losing shoot outs. He was just losing. @CHICAGO don't bother with this guy, he is a Manning stan who keeps repeating this myth no matter how many times I destroy it. I'm not about to compile the stats again. Brady with a high-powered offense = SB birth even if he loses. Tom Brady took the 31st ranked defense in the NFL to the fukking SB. Get all the way the fukk out of here.
 
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They played with a bunch of small, fast players in a cover 2 shell that was designed to play while ahead, pressuring the QB off the edge and not giving up big plays.

But whenever their offense sputtered they got mauled. It was a flawed design.


No it wasn't... They went to two ships in 8 years..... and how could they afford Edge, Clark, Wayne, 2 pro bowl offensive lineman, and an all star defense back then.....?
 
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They played with a bunch of small, fast players in a cover 2 shell that was designed to play while ahead, pressuring the QB off the edge and not giving up big plays.

But whenever their offense sputtered they got mauled. It was a flawed design.
Exactly. Imagine if that defense never folded against the Pats, Chargers, Steelers, etc. He would have more SB rings and definitely a different narrative.
 
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THE ONE YR THEY WERE GOOD,
HE SUCKED....

HE HAS A GOOD D THIS YR
AND HE SUCKS.

SO WTF ARE YALL SAYING?
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Peyton was mediocre today, and now all the revisionist history is popping up talking about what he could've done if Dungy wasn't his coach...... like this cat put up a Steve Young performance or something.... :mjlol:

That media will make you hate your own.... shyt is powerful
 

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The revisionist history is insulting...

The Cover 2 basically had Tampa Bay a contender with virtually no offense for about 4 years until they won the ship in 02

Cover 2 covered Peyton's ass in the playoffs where he was wildly inefficient.....(Bob Sanders Got Healthy :whew:)

Irsay\Polian was spending wild money on the offensive side of the ball which allowed Peyton to become the Peyton we know today.... which left Dungy with the task of putting a defense together for the cheap.....

and I wanna say he still had a top 10 defense at least half of the years he coached in Indy..

Black history month approaching and yall still don't do the knowledge.... :wow:
Stop. Indy's defenses in the Manning years were always weak. You got some nerve talking about revisionist history, lol.

I don't know why you're mentioning Tampa. They were the GOAT cover 2 but they had beastly personnel and could stifle teams for 48 minutes, not just get sacks when they're up by 20.

The defense played well in 06 when they won, largely due to Bob Sanders returning for the playoffs and balling out. But let's not forget who they played that year.

The Ravens with no offense. McNair was :flabbynsick: at that point.

The Bears with Rex Grossman. Nuff said.

Who couldn't stop those 2 anemic offenses?

And the Pats when they had the worst WR Brady ever had in his career. Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and them. And they still dropped 34.

Every other year, their D got smashed on in the playoffs.
 

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The revisionist history is insulting...

The Cover 2 basically had Tampa Bay a contender with virtually no offense for about 4 years until they won the ship in 02

Cover 2 covered Peyton's ass in the playoffs where he was wildly inefficient that first super bowl .....(Bob Sanders Got Healthy :whew:)

Irsay\Polian was spending wild money on the offensive side of the ball which allowed Peyton to become the Peyton we know today.... which left Dungy with the task of putting a defense together for the cheap.....

and I wanna say he still had a top 10 defense at least half of the years he coached in Indy..

Black history month approaching and yall still don't do the knowledge.... :wow:



Stop right there. The Cover 2 is a prehistoric defense that teams stopped running years ago. The only year Peyton had a top 10 defense was 2006 and maybe 2007. Even then, they still lost to a long run in overtime to the Chargers. The moment you start saying shyt like Peyton had a top 10 defense half of the years Dungy coached is the moment you lost this argument.

Manning has gone 1 and done with multiple top 10 defenses, what are you talking about? You know what the difference between Brady and Manning is? Brady puts up a fight even when his defense is bad, Manning gets blown out and does nothing on offense.

Tom Brady just got hit 20x the most of any player in any game in the NFL this season, regular season or playoffs and somehow had the Pats in position to win. If that's Peyton Manning he loses by 30. This is a team game, but let's not act like Manning was losing shoot outs. He was just losing. @CHICAGO don't bother with this guy, he is a Manning stan who keeps repeating this myth no matter how many times I destroy it. I'm not about to compile the stats again. Brady with a high-powered offense = SB birth even if he loses. Tom Brady took the 31st ranked defense in the NFL to the fukking SB. Get all the way the fukk out of here.
Multiple top 10 defenses? When? Like I said, Peyton only had a top 10 defense for two years at the most. And no, Brady doesn't always put up a fight like the media wants you to believe. He's been blown out and done nothing on offense in the playoffs before, please stop with the bs.

You know why Peyton doesn't get hit 30x a game? Because he's smart enough to take the sack and punt it away rather than get bytched like Brady in both SBs against the Giants.

Y'all really gotta stop with this bs, it's a known fact that Peyton always carried the Colts (aside from the SB win).
 
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Stop. Indy's defenses in the Manning years were always weak. You got some nerve talking about revisionist history, lol.

I don't know why you're mentioning Tampa. They were the GOAT cover 2 but they had beastly personnel and could stifle teams for 48 minutes, not just get sacks when they're up by 20.

The defense played well in 06 when they won, largely due to Bob Sanders returning for the playoffs and balling out. But let's not forget who they played that year.

The Ravens with no offense. McNair was :flabbynsick: at that point.

The Bears with Rex Grossman. Nuff said.

Who couldn't stop those 2 anemic offenses?

And the Pats when they had the worst WR Brady ever had in his career. Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and them. And they still dropped 34.

Every other year, their D got smashed on in the playoffs.

What other team average 10 wins a seasons for those 8-9 years.....?

What other team was a playoff lock every for almost 10 years straight......?

You act like Peyton's performance wasn't shyt...

and out of all those playoff appearances... how many times did they get beat by double digits... ? or how many times did the opposing team score 30 plus and Indy lose?
 

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Bruh, was that necessary? :whoa:
 

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No it wasn't... They went to two ships in 8 years..... and how could they afford Edge, Clark, Wayne, 2 pro bowl offensive lineman, and an all star defense back then.....?
Yes, it was. You're forgetting that Peyton was almost entirely the reason they always made it to the playoffs, let alone had a first round bye.

They could've afforded an all star defense if that's what they wanted, but they didn't. They kept the smaller, faster defensive players in order to take advantage of leads. Why do you think Freeney and Mathis were the most important players on that defense? So they could rush the passer when they were playing catch up.
 
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