Indian man paralyzed after Alabama cop body-slams him for walking in wealthy white suburb

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Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but the Indian goverment likely is using this situation to highlight American hypocrisy as well as looking out for one of their own victimized outside of his homeland. India has caught hell from US politicians and media for a host of reasons including but not limited to, honor killings and attacks, rapes including gang rapes, their caste system which was brought back into the American public's attentions via the diva diplomat who basically enslaved her housekeeper and only escaped prosecution due to the Indian goverment changing her title/position so she could recieve full diplomatic immunity, etc.. So they've been catching thunder and lightening in the past few years, and this is a perfect oppurtunity for them to thumb their nose right back at the US like, "you've got the nerve to point your finger at us, when you confused one of our own for a kaffir(as Gandhi referred to Africans)."
 

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Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but the Indian goverment likely is using this situation to highlight American hypocrisy as well as looking out for one of their own victimized outside of his homeland. India has caught hell from US politicians and media for a host of reasons including but not limited to, honor killings and attacks, rapes including gang rapes, their caste system which was brought back into the American public's attentions via the diva diplomat who basically enslaved her housekeeper and only escaped prosecution due to the Indian goverment changing her title/position so she could recieve full diplomatic immunity, etc.. So they've been catching thunder and lightening in the past few years, and this is a perfect oppurtunity for them to thumb their nose right back at the US like, "you've got the nerve to point your finger at us, when you confused one of our own for a kaffir(as Gandhi referred to Africans)."

Breh you talk like you know what you're talking about but you are off in many ways. The situation with the diplomat didn't have to do with caste (she is herself of the caste once known as "untouchables") and people don't use the word "kaffir" in India, that's a south african thing
 

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Wow, they actually fired him instead a putting him on administrative leave, with pay. What ever happened to we cant jump to conclusion, we need to investigate?

Well, the typical young black/hispanic victim is pretty easy to typecast as a thug and it's not that hard for cops to convince the public that person was dangerous and they acted in self defense.

This being a older guy, and an Indian man (one of the "good" minorities) there's no way to convince anybody that the cops actions were in the right so they decided to just cut their losses.
 

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Breh you talk like you know what you're talking about but you are off in many ways. The situation with the diplomat didn't have to do with caste (she is herself of the caste once known as "untouchables") and people don't use the word "kaffir" in India, that's a south african thing


I know it's a South African word, but it is true that Gandhi used the word quite often when referring to Africans.

As far as the caste thing, that's news to me that they were of the same, I could have sworn they were different and that played a role. Regardless, that same mentality existed in that diplomat and her family, that being the view of the nanny being less than a human to them. That mentality is something that appears to be quite prevelant amongst their nation. So whether you want to label it caste, or class, it really doesn't matter as the point stands.
 

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Well, the typical young black/hispanic victim is pretty easy to typecast as a thug and it's not that hard for cops to convince the public that person was dangerous and they acted in self defense.

This being a older guy, and an Indian man (one of the "good" minorities) there's no way to convince anybody that the cops actions were in the right so they decided to just cut their losses.
Yeah and the Indian gov. getting involved too.

Power and Unity.
 

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I know it's a South African word, but it is true that Gandhi used the word quite often when referring to Africans.

As far as the caste thing, that's news to me that they were of the same, I could have sworn they were different and that played a role. Regardless, that same mentality existed in that diplomat and her family, that being the view of the nanny being less than a human to them. That mentality is something that appears to be quite prevelant amongst their nation. So whether you want to label it caste, or class, it really doesn't matter as the point stands.

No it doesn't, there's a huge difference. People paying workers low wages is a worldwide phenomenon and was common in the US before unions etc. and you brought up caste specifically. Heck the vast majority of Americans aren't paying hispanic nannies & farm workers and them minimum wage either

And the Kaffir thing, you specifically made up a quote where the Indian government said their problem was that he was confused for a black man when every quote about it from Indian representatives is about discrimination, not "he's not black!!"

And people don't use the word Kaffir for 'black person' in India, like I said. A lot of things happen in South Africa that don't happen in India. You should not assume you understand things that you don't breh.
 
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I know it's a South African word, but it is true that Gandhi used the word quite often when referring to Africans.

As far as the caste thing, that's news to me that they were of the same, I could have sworn they were different and that played a role. Regardless, that same mentality existed in that diplomat and her family, that being the view of the nanny being less than a human to them. That mentality is something that appears to be quite prevelant amongst their nation. So whether you want to label it caste, or class, it really doesn't matter as the point stands.

Caste in India only comes to play in religious matters and upper castes don't really marry lower castes. That's really the extent of it.
 

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No it doesn't, there's a huge difference. People paying workers low wages is a worldwide phenomenon and was common in the US before unions etc. and you brought up caste specifically. Heck the vast majority of Americans aren't paying hispanic nannies & farm workers and them minimum wage either

And the Kaffir thing, you specifically made up a quote where the Indian government said their problem was that he was confused for a black man when every quote about it from Indian representatives is about discrimination, not "he's not black!!"

And nobody uses the word Kaffir for 'black person' in India, like I said. A lot of things happen in South Africa that don't happen in India. You should not assume you understand things that you don't breh.


:mjlol: You really think the Indian goverment is going to come out and make a statement like that? It's called sarcasm, with enough experience in life to know that's what they're really thinking and have possibly expressed. You know, the only regret I've ever had about being Black is wondering what these people say about us when we're not around. You know, I'd love to be privy to those conversations, and thankfully the internet with its forums and comment sections for news articles gets me some specifics. REgardless, the reality is....they don't like us, and they'd rather identify with whites and not be associated with us in any way, shape, or form. Even the ones working the counter at a corner store look down upon you and are glad they're not you. I mean, you think these Indians give two sh!ts about what happened to Eric Garner? Or hell, even most of these other "respectable" minorities? There's no solidarity with Asians, Indians, Mexicans, or any other ones when it comes to us. These Indians could care less about discrimination so long as it doesn't affect them. So again, the made up quote, was just that, made up, but it's not that far from what they're thinking. I don't hate them, nor dislike them, but I understand them and more importantly recognize that if what happened to that old man happened to my father, they wouldn't be speaking out about it.
 

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:mjlol: You really think the Indian goverment is going to come out and make a statement like that? It's called sarcasm, with enough experience in life to know that's what they're really thinking and have possibly expressed. You know, the only regret I've ever had about being Black is wondering what these people say about us when we're not around. You know, I'd love to be privy to those conversations, and thankfully the internet with its forums and comment sections for news articles gets me some specifics. REgardless, the reality is....they don't like us, and they'd rather identify with whites and not be associated with us in any way, shape, or form. Even the ones working the counter at a corner store look down upon you and are glad they're not you. I mean, you think these Indians give two sh!ts about what happened to Eric Garner? Or hell, even most of these other "respectable" minorities? There's no solidarity with Asians, Indians, Mexicans, or any other ones when it comes to us. These Indians could care less about discrimination so long as it doesn't affect them. So again, the made up quote, was just that, made up, but it's not that far from what they're thinking. I don't hate them, nor dislike them, but I understand them and more importantly recognize that if what happened to that old man happened to my father, they wouldn't be speaking out about it.

Indians only care about themselves just like everyone else, you're reading too much into it.
 

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:mjlol: You really think the Indian goverment is going to come out and make a statement like that? It's called sarcasm, with enough experience in life to know that's what they're really thinking and have possibly expressed. You know, the only regret I've ever had about being Black is wondering what these people say about us when we're not around. You know, I'd love to be privy to those conversations, and thankfully the internet with its forums and comment sections for news articles gets me some specifics. REgardless, the reality is....they don't like us, and they'd rather identify with whites and not be associated with us in any way, shape, or form. Even the ones working the counter at a corner store look down upon you and are glad they're not you. I mean, you think these Indians give two sh!ts about what happened to Eric Garner? Or hell, even most of these other "respectable" minorities? There's no solidarity with Asians, Indians, Mexicans, or any other ones when it comes to us. These Indians could care less about discrimination so long as it doesn't affect them. So again, the made up quote, was just that, made up, but it's not that far from what they're thinking. I don't hate them, nor dislike them, but I understand them and more importantly recognize that if what happened to that old man happened to my father, they wouldn't be speaking out about it.

:yeshrug: I'm Indian (it's almost 11pm here!) and I care about Eric Garner. I understand your point about well-to-do minorities in the united states often not showing solidarity with black people's issues but I don't think ascribing malicious hypothetical intentions makes sense either. The word being used out here for these cops is "racist", not "anti-Indian" or whatever
 

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:yeshrug: I'm Indian (it's almost 11pm here!) and I care about Eric Garner. I understand your point about well-to-do minorities in the united states often not showing solidarity with black people's issues but I don't think ascribing malicious hypothetical intentions makes sense either. The word being used out here for these cops is "racist", not "anti-Indian" or whatever


Ok, you're Indian, so let me ask you something, and I'd appreciate your honesty on this question. Are you views on what happened to Eric Garner in harmony with what many other Indian peoples' views are, or are your sympathies in line with a minority of Indians?
 

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Ok, you're Indian, so let me ask you something, and I'd appreciate your honesty on this question. Are you views on what happened to Eric Garner in harmony with what many other Indian peoples' views are, or are your sympathies in line with a minority of Indians?

Well, most Indians have never heard of him or care about domestic American news like that...

I certainly have never heard an Indian say that cops should choke black dudes to death for selling cigarettes. There was an incident here last year where some African women were accused by a state government official for allegedly being prostitutes or drug dealers and most of the media was against this official doing what he did and saying such investigations should go through proper police channels.

I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of prejudice and discrimination in India, not least among indians (based on religion, background, caste, region etc.) But this whole thing about cops just beating up or killing random unarmed people in the street is sort of unique to the United States actually. A lot of police forces are corrupt, murderous or torturers (after they arrest you) but this idea of rolling up to a kid with a toy gun and shooting him blindly, or choking some dude to death for selling cigarettes is not common anywhere else as far as I know. Nobody supports it.
 

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It's a trip how when any minority gets harmed in tha US, there is recourse from that persons country, they hold tha US accountable

but when it's a black person from this country tha US duznt have to answer to nobody, so they do as they please...smh

and then CACs complain about protests and marches....but that's tha only recourse tha Amerikkkan black community has
 
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