Incel does experiment with cac who states he has criminal record beating women and still gets 800 matches + dates

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Ex of just world theory. you can't say that no one gets the short end of the stick, that implies a equal playing field which, using history and stats, is a fairy tale.


IF you do the most basic work to improve yourself, then you're gonna elevate yourself over the men at the bottom. You don't have to reach the top, you just have to do better than the guys who aren't putting the work in.


I didn't say "no one gets the short end of the stick", but there are billions of women out there and half of men are undesireable a$$holes. Most of the women who are worth being in a relationship with are also the kind of women who are looking for someone other than an a$$hole.

You have to do the basic work - live a meaningful life, do something positive that regularly puts you in proximity of women, and be a nice guy who is genuinely interested in their lives. That will be enough for 99% of men that SOME woman of quality will develop interest at some point.

The problem with most guys is that either they don't have a meaningful life, or they don't want to do the work, or they're only interested in pursuing the sort of superficial model with cleavage showing.......the exact sort of attitude they hate when women exhibit it.
 

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IF you do the most basic work to improve yourself, then you're gonna elevate yourself over the men at the bottom. You don't have to reach the top, you just have to do better than the guys who aren't putting the work in.


I didn't say "no one gets the short end of the stick", but there are billions of women out there and half of men are undesireable a$$holes. Most of the women who are worth being in a relationship with are also the kind of women who are looking for someone other than an a$$hole.

You have to do the basic work - live a meaningful life, do something positive that regularly puts you in proximity of women, and be a nice guy who is genuinely interested in their lives. That will be enough for 99% of men that SOME woman of quality will develop interest at some point.

The problem with most guys is that either they don't have a meaningful life, or they don't want to do the work, or they're only interested in pursuing the sort of superficial model with cleavage showing.......the exact sort of attitude they hate when women exhibit it.
Like the other part of my post you didn't quote said, for some it's is possible for others the ROI is shytty to non existent
 

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Incel dude looks gay or closeted. No straight man is doing all this, especially if you’re not getting paid. Dude needs to find out who he truly is.
Lets say he 100% gay in the closet does that negate the fact hoes lusting after a criminal?
 

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And yet there are millions of examples of unattractive men landing quality women. All of us know dozens of such examples from our own lives.

I'm maybe of average attractiveness. Not a smooth talker at all. No charisma. Not rich. And when I was single I was very slow to initiate anything and would almost never "shoot my shot".

Yet I married a far more attractive woman than myself, who was also highly intelligent, had a great career, and a great personality, who could have had her pick of any guy. And between school, work, and church, there were a few dozen other women I could have successfully pursued if I wasn't focused on her, some of whom made their availability known. Being deeply involved in church, passionate about social justice and Black empowerment, and successful at what I do in life was enough. The sort of women who I was interested in are the sort of women who are interested in passionate and honorable men. And there's honestly a lot more women looking for that sort of man than there are men for them to choose from.

I posted a picture in here once of one of the most beautiful woman I knew, and she's a college graduate who is fun to be around and great at what she does in life. The picture was a wedding photo and she married a straight nerd of average looks, who is basically just a really good guy who went to college with her and made it his business to go after her. My best male friend in college was a similar nerd, married a woman way more attractive than himself for some of the same reasons. I could keep going for a long time.


Of course, guys like me aren't going to appeal to every woman.....but MOST women have something they're looking for that isn't just looks. Maybe it's church, maybe it's money, maybe it's personality, maybe it's a shared hobby, maybe it's a shared life experience, maybe it's just someone who truly understands them or does the work to show how much they care about them.

When you realize that you don't need to attract "most women" or "the typical woman", but just need to land that ONE woman who fits you, life gets a lot easier.






My experience is that most women are able to become physically attracted to guys they like over time, even if they weren't at first. The objectively attractive guy has the advantage at the beginning, the unattractive guy has to more slowly work his way into her heart through other means and she begins to see him as physically attractive over time. Guys do the same thing - the women I had an emotional connection to were way more attractive to me than they would have been to some neutral third party.


The incel was able to show proof. And this isn't the first time someone has shown proof either.

This happens all the time.

Women OUT OF THEIR OWN MOUTHS admit that looks matter. And their actions speak for itself.

You, however, can only give me hypotheticals and anecdotes.

What you're telling these incels is not in line with the reality they see.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's all or nothing. Any man can find a woman.

But we need to start being reasonable.

Instead of telling men "ugly guys get hot women all the time", which is setting unrealistic expectations

How about we tell them "if you focus and work hard on courting a particular woman who is giving you the same energy back, you can set yourself up for a nice monogamous relationship if you're willing to maintain it."
 

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I wonder why dudes think about this shyt all the time?

Maybe its because I'm introverted, but I literally don't give two shyts what women are doing. It's like I can't even be bothered to care. Maybe it's because I understand birds will be birds.


I'd rather be on my ps5, running, or riding a motorcycle than thinking about birds :banderas:
 

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Like the other part of my post you didn't quote said, for some it's is possible for others the ROI is shytty to non existent


Based on what?

If you're capable of earning a decent living, being a kind person, and show genuine interest in women's lives and the things they care about, that puts you above enough other men for you to find a woman interested in you. I've seen it way too many times to discount it. Why are there so many overweight neckbeards without social skills who are married to women far more attractive than themselves solely because they both like Renaissance cosplay or classical music?
 

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Oh shyt havent heard about that in a minute. Zyzz the indian dude right. Talking bout aesthetics and u mirin bro. To be fair them body building nikkas be corny too and will have roid rage on a broad if they get rejected too :russ:
:to:

I remember the days.
:to:

It's what helped to inform a lot of my adult world view as far as getting in shape and choosing
something high paying.

I already knew I need to do well financially but once I saw the astronomical difference in attention
bro received at changing his appearance.

:shaq:
I knew what time it was.
:shaq:
 

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Based on what?

If you're capable of earning a decent living, being a kind person, and show genuine interest in women's lives and the things they care about, that puts you above enough other men for you to find a woman interested in you. I've seen it way too many times to discount it. Why are there so many overweight neckbeards without social skills who are married to women far more attractive than themselves solely because they both like Renaissance cosplay or classical music?
The first half of this statement is just world theory, nikkas can acknowledge that not everyone is going to be upper or middle class, yet when it comes to dating everybody wins if they work hard. :russ:



Define so many cause I can easily say thats a rarity and have history and stats on my side.
 

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The first half of this statement is just world theory, nikkas can acknowledge that not everyone is going to be upper or middle class, yet when it comes to dating everybody wins if they work hard. :russ:



Define so many cause I can easily say thats a rarity and have history and stats on my side.


This is complete nonsense. In order to be middle/upper class, you have to objectively outearn tens of millions of people. In order to get in a relationship, you only need to match with 1 woman. And the self-improvement necessary to be in a relationship is far more subjective and flexible than what it takes to gain an objectively higher-earning job.

You have yet to post a single stat showing that unattractive men are unable to get in relationships with women more attractive than themselves. Nor have you (or anyone else in this thread) posted ANY objective stats proving any of your other claims.
 
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Imo it's usually left leaning people who spew the platitudes the dude in op is trying to refute("your an incel cause your misogynistic, stink, etc..."). Don't get me wrong tho, people in general, especially if they don't struggle in this area tend to have a just world theory view of those who do.
And they're not wrong.

I mean, everyone can see how incels are their own worst enemy; the self-fulfilling prophecy by caricaturizing all these female-repellent traits of themselves. There's a difference between the misogyny of a man who exudes 'I don't give a fukk about these hoes', and a man who reflects 'why don't these hoes like me?'.

That comment from that poster was just really strange, given the fact this incel has leaned so much to the Right, he's parallel to the ground, and yet still has no grasp of reality around dating or the laws of attraction.
 
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