In retrospect, Breaking Bad is so fukking corny

[ECA]

Random tryhard contrarians coming out the woodwork I see

First post doesn't even encourage discussion, dude just puts a goofy smilie up

Negged 1 star

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

in retrospect shut the fukk up

 

[boskey]

The show was great. Most shows have corny elements. But I stand by the fact that Jesse Pinkman was a weak character and Aaron Paul's acting was shytty...

Adrian Paul >>> Aaron Paul

 

[duncanthetall]

Jesse should have been killed at some point in season 4. He brought the whole final season down for me, especially with how quickly he turned snitch. Still love the show. Season 5 was probably just the worst season IMO

 

[kp404]

:newtroll:

 

[hex]

Fred.

 

[dem bath salts]

Ok, make another GOAT tv show

 

[Black Ball]

The show was great for it's edge of your seat suspense, tension, drama, and entertainment. Much of the greatness came from the anticipation of what would happen next. Now that I know what happened, I have no desire to sit through the show again. I can't imagine sitting through the show again because the story is so simple and singular, the actors are below average outside of Walt, Gus, Mike, & later on Hank. Most of all, the annoyance of sitting through Jessie's bytchassness for a 2nd time seems unbearable.

Although I was annoyed and disappointed at times, the overall experience was a great one. Season 4 was some of the best TV ever.

 

[hex]

A guy like Heisenberg would obviously murked the fukk out of junkie like Jesse, considering all the circumstances.

A guy like Heisenberg wouldn't tolerate psycho cheating wife, considering all the circumstances.

A guy like Heisenberg would've slapped the fukk out of nagging, always unsatisfied wheelchair creep of a son and would've thrown him in the bushes.

All in all, a guy with a mentality of Heisenberg, would've left such ungrateful family once he saw money pouring in and eliminated all liabilities like fukking junkie Jesse. Miss me with all that "he did it for the family shyt". He would've had mad hoes on his dikk and dealt with circumstances.

The combination of qualities in Walter's character is very unrealistic.

Also, unlike most of you, dikkriding, bandwagon jumping fakkits, I watched it from day 1. When it was not so popular, I kinda thought that Bryan Cranston did a poor job of portraying a bad guy. He looks corny and unconvincing as a bad guy. Now Cranston gets mad awards for this role and I don't understand why.

Walter not killing Jesse was EXTRA corny...The writers didn't even bother giving a good explanation to why Walter would not kill Jesse, when Jesse was his BIGGEST enemy...

False.

Real life 80's drug kingpin Cavario H. said the Walt/Jesse dynamic is probably the most realistic part of the show:

How Real Is Breaking Bad - Lessons from an Ex Drug Kingpin - Esquire

What were some of the biggest problems you faced? Can you give an example?

One time, I opened up in the Bronx, in 1986, and I had a guy inside this apartment. I had had guys operating inside crack apartments before, but there was a consistent problem that was happening with these guys. You'd leave them in the crack house overnight, and at a certain point, the crack prostitutes come and they'd negotiate themselves into the goddamn crack spot, circumventing the security. In a lot of cases, the girl was working for a guy who was waiting to rob the crack spot. I'd heard about this, and didn't want to wait until I experienced it myself. So this one young man that I put into an apartment, when he showed himself to be susceptible to that kind of scenario, I just said, okay, I know what I'm going to do. I told him, "When you go inside, I'm gonna lock you in." Now, at this time, many people were smoking crack in New York. They'd become strung out and wouldn't pay their bills, and the city would put them out. The only way to keep them out was to put these big padlocks on the doors, so it was common to see these big padlocks. So I went and got a big padlock and locked this guy inside, and made a slide so he could pass things in and out. Now, whenever someone came, they would knock on the door and say whatever they wanted. They would slide their money in and he would slide the crack out. When the women started with the, you know, "You in here by yourself, you in here all night, you want some company?" the guy would be like "You see that lock on the door? I can't get out of here, I can't open that door."

Did he kill him? Of course not:

Sounds like Jesse.

Yeah! And I had to do things like that. I had to create situations where guys just couldn't do the stupid things that they were inclined to do. And you have to contend with that kind of situation far more than you have to contend with the threat of being arrested. Far more. The people closest to you hold the greatest detriment. That's why the dynamic between Walter and Jesse on Breaking Bad is so good. Because that's just got it right. You're rarely going to find somebody you can work with who is going to have any degree of the intellectual process that you have. You have to think for everybody. You have to learn personalities and you have to constantly orchestrate situations that will not allow those personalities to create problems. Because the moment they have a problem, they look to you. Because you're the thinker. You're the boss. You're the leader. That's what Jesse does, right? Every single time, Jesse creates a situation and Mr. White has to correct it. It's almost like he's required to. It's like "Why aren't you fixing this? It's your job to fix things!" And that's a common thing, man. If everybody did what they were supposed to do, the streets would be so much more profitable than they are today.

If a real life drug lord can enjoy the show, I don't want to hear about how unrealistic it is.

Fred.

 

[hex]

Jesse should have been killed at some point in season 4. He brought the whole final season down for me, especially with how quickly he turned snitch. Still love the show. Season 5 was probably just the worst season IMO

Jesse was talking about snitching in season 3 and 4 breh. It didn't come out of left field.

Fred.

 

[duncanthetall]

Jesse was talking about snitching in season 3 and 4 breh. It didn't come out of left field.

Fred.

Was still a wack way to go about it

 

[nineteeneightysix]

False.
Real life 80's drug kingpin Cavario H. said the Walt/Jesse dynamic is probably the most realistic part of the show:
How Real Is Breaking Bad - Lessons from an Ex Drug Kingpin - Esquire
he kill him? Of course not:
If a real life drug lord can enjoy the show, I don't want to hear about how unrealistic it is.Fred.

Your example is NOT a good one...

I understand Walter not killing those two tweekers that Jesse considered his friends...That is the example that you posted...There is no point killing a foot soldier because he is stupid, the risk outweighs the benefit...

Jesse WAS NOT no foot soldier...He was getting a cut of the PROFITS...He was a business partner who was liability and set with FEDS and SNITCHED....



Any Drug Lord who does NOT kill a guy like Jesse will not reign for more than 2 years...He or She is setting him/herself for VERY LONG vacation with the FEDS...

Name one drug lord who didn't kill a BUSINESS PARTNER who sat with the FEDS and SNICTHED, and is still alive and free and carrying on with business as usual...?

Walter was suppose to be some kind of genius chess player drug lord...And he couldn't make the easiest move and kill Jesse...?

What's the point of Walter poisoning a little boy when he could have easily just taken Jesse out....? Why would a genius use a strategy that requires so MANY moving parts when the most efficient strategy was killing when tweeker...?

I enjoyed the show, but the Jesse storyline took it down a BIG notch for me...Jesse didn't fit after Season 1...They should have move on to Walter vs Gus...

Season 1 - Walter comes up with Jesse
Season 2 - Walter becomes successful with Gus
Season 3 - Walter's greed makes him fall out with Gus
Season 4 - Walter vs FEDS
Season 5 - Walter's reign comes to an end

And the Jesse storyline would NOT be required beyond Season 1...The producers of the show were just afraid to kill off a main character...Typical for many American shows...

This is why I am really enjoying The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones...Main characters get killed to advance the plot, and they are doing it in a way that makes sense...

The BB people wanted to kill Jesse after Season 1, but chose to let him live for sentimental value, and they didn't do anything with the character after that...

 

[marcuz]

Season 1 - Walter comes up with Jesse
Season 2 - Walter becomes successful with Gus
Season 3 - Walter's greed makes him fall out with Gus
Season 4 - Walter vs FEDS
Season 5 - Walter's reign comes to an end

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Well no, seeing as this was what he used to justify his actions in the first place. Everything he did was under the justification of "its for my family" So how can that in-turn be used to show remorse for his actions?

There is NO need for Walter to show any remorse...
When Walter tells Skylar that he was addicted to the power and he was finally able to carry on with his self-destruction alone, and leave his family out of it, that was his penance...

He didn't need Jesse for that...

Jesse was a junkie snitch who got people killed because of his stupidity...Walter should have killed Jesse with NO remorse...

Walter was suppose to be some kind of thinking 5 moves ahead type of Kingpin...So, how could he not see that every time he gave Jesse a pass, he created more problems for himself and everybody else...?

The writers DON'T explain this discrepancy...I don't think they even thought about it...

When Walter and The FEDS were both trying to get their hands on Jesse, it should have ended up in Jesse either putting Walter in jail or Walter killing Jesse...

Especially, when the brother law ended getting killed and Walter ended up losing barrels of cash...Jesse was a DIRECT threat to Walter's family, the people that Walter started dealing for in the first place, and he still wouldn't put that dog down...Why...?

When the brother in law got killed in the desert, Walter should have put Jesse down...PERIOD.

The Jesse storyline was FCUKED UP and it took some quality away from the show...Walter should have killed Jesse when he overdosed with that silly girl...

The show should have moved on with Walter and Gus, and then Walter vs Gus, and then Walter vs FEDS, and then conclude...

Jesse was not needed after Season 1...
The show could have and should have progressed without OR they should have made Walter kill him at some point...Because he was Walter's BIGGEST nemesis...No a token of salvation...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

I really don't know what you mean...I posted a personal HYPOTHETICAL version of the show...

It is was MY OPINION of how the show could progress after Season 1 without Jesse, so how can it be ducktales...?

Please try to use words if you are going to participate, and please express yourself fully...What's the point of engaging if you are not going to use words to present your position...?

We are NOT fighting...We are just online friends having a discussion about a show We enjoyed very much...