In memory of our brother Charmander, RIP: The OFFICIAL 2019-2020 Atlanta Hawks season thread #Set

[Born2BKing]

IMO a max player is someone you can tell before the game to go out there and win this bytch. John Collins is not that. John Collins has to be your 3rd best player behind two legit max guys.

Yeah, so which Max players in your mind gonna come to Atlanta? We been trying to attract one for 30 damn years, what has that done for us?

 

[Morethan1]

Yall gonna be my league pass team this year

They put together a dope squad

 

[AVXL]

It's 2020 and the NBA has changed. Most players are getting paid more than they deserve. I rather bet on a 23year old PF who gives you 20/10. What's the other options? Sign journey men around Trae?

Hes gonna get paid but just because he’s a 20/10 guy and young doesn’t mean we should give him a max. He’s a good player, not an All Star but in the context of this team is your #2 option. I don’t think he’s a #2 on a playoff team bro and that’s the goal.

 

[Born2BKing]

Hes gonna get paid but just because he’s a 20/10 guy and young doesn’t mean we should give him a max. He’s a good player, not an All Star but in the context of this team is your #2 option. I don’t think he’s a #2 on a playoff team bro and that’s the goal.

He is a all-star brah. Brah, 21 and 10 doesn't grow on trees.

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Collins might not be a dominant one on one defender but I’ve seen improvements in his defense particularly his shot blocking

 

[Sly Cookin]

Pay collins. Not fox money but jaylen brown money.

 

[staticshock]

IMO a max player is someone you can tell before the game to go out there and win this bytch. John Collins is not that. John Collins has to be your 3rd best player behind two legit max guys.

idk bruh lot of dudes worse than Collins have gotten a max

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

 

[Professor K.]

He is a all-star brah. Brah, 21 and 10 ON HISTORIC EFFIECIENCY doesn't grow on trees.

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@AVXL still doesn't believe in him because he didn't shoot 3's in college

nikkas really gotta kick rocks with this shyt man

 

[Born2BKing]

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@AVXL still doesn't believe in him because he didn't shoot 3's in college

nikkas really gotta kick rocks with this shyt man

And breh is fukking 23 years old and wants to be here. What is the end game as a Hawks fan based on history? Hoping one day a KD signs here in free agency? Hoping we land a Dominique in the draft? How is investing in JC and Trae as our core not the best option? nikkas be acting like they paying salaries out they own pocket.

 

[daemonova]

And breh is fukking 23 years old and wants to be here. What is the end game as a Hawks fan based on history? Hoping one day a KD signs here in free agency? Hoping we land a Dominique in the draft? How is investing in JC and Trae as our core not the best option? nikkas be acting like they paying salaries out they own pocket.

We don't need to redo all horford, breh should get paid but nba contract are insane now

We paid Josh smith and won nothing, he put up plenty of empty stats

 

[Born2BKing]

We don't need to redo all horford, breh should get paid but nba contract are insane now

We paid Josh smith and won nothing, he put up plenty of empty stats

Exactly, NBA contracts are insane now. And the Hawks are an NBA team. It is what it is lol. Or just wait and sign a washed up Bradley Beal type nikka in 5 years at a discount to keep the fans excited/content.

 

[AVXL]

He is a all-star brah. Brah, 21 and 10 doesn't grow on trees.

Collins ain’t an All Star. And I’m not even trippin on that b/c he’s played on some awful Hawks teams so far

For what he is, he’s a good fit. But his limitations make me hesitate to give him a max

I agree with @Sly Cookin that he deserves to get paid, but I’m not throwing him a max

Collins might not be a dominant one on one defender but I’ve seen improvements in his defense particularly his shot blocking

Teams with length give him issues. I’m not expecting All NBA first team defense from him but the Hawks have consistently been one of the worst teams in the NBA defensively each of the last 3 years. That’s not al on him but in the interior he’s getting beat. He’s gotta improve that and take that challenge personally night to night

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@AVXL still doesn't believe in him because he didn't shoot 3's in college

nikkas really gotta kick rocks with this shyt man

Collins has actually developed a reliable 3pt shot. Coming out of college it wasn’t a shot he really attempted but now he’s a solid knockdown 3pt shooter, one of the best on the team actually so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

Y’all actin like I’m saying he’s a bum. He’s a good player with elite athleticism, efficient scorer, good teammate but he’s limited by being a below average defender and he’s unable to create offense for himself or others.

As of now that’s not a max player to me but shyt he might go for 25 & 15 and change the conversation completely. But as of now I’m not maxing that production out

We don't need to redo all horford, breh should get paid but nba contract are insane now

We paid Josh smith and won nothing, he put up plenty of empty stats

I don’t think JC has empty stats but he’s gotta elevate his game to a new level this year. I think he’s capable of being a better scorer off the dribble, being a better facilitator and improving defensively.

Im hoping he’s focused and has a big year for us

 

[Rickdogg44]

Why am I not getting notification on this thread? I thought you bruhs had stopped talking bout the Hawks

Happen to me too. Had to go to my watched threads just to find it

 

[Rickdogg44]

Hope he stays but don't think we'd overpay him. Sucks too lose a young core member but it's the 2020 NBA

I missed the consistency of lineups from 90s. But get that money