Immigration is Very Much A Black Issue

[T'krm]

How is prioritizing one's own interests cutting their nose to spite one's face

AADOS are tired of the okey doke. DNC workers cannot explain how their pro immigrant push helps AADOSs', so you have to resort to intersectionality, playing the WS boogeyman card, and when all else fails flat out insulting them.

DNC would have it so much easier if it represented the interests of its current voting blocs rather than its potential future ones. The more the DNC puts immigrants ahead of Americans the more support they will lose.

No thanks

Simple response..yet straight to the point!

 

[T'krm]

That is your prerogative, but at the same time, don't try to shame other AADOS who do empathize with those being targeted by racist right wing cacs.

If it were me, I would take a long pause if I found myself on the same side of an issue with white racists who have been the traditional enemy of AADOS. I would not be supporting their ultimate goal, however unlikely it seems at the moment, of creating white ethno states in the west.....No matter what small differences I may have with other black people.

Cut your nose to spite your face, faux militant brehs.

Thanks, but as an native born Black, I don't require any history lessons of what whites are capable of, or what their ultimate goal is; as I'd be listed as something of an authority on the topic.
Also, what's this 'supporting their goals'? Again, you act as if the ppl with the MOST experience, act, and have the LEAST know-how.

Given our experience, point blank, period, been at this game for 400+ years; we kinda know what we're doing, make no mistake.
Last thing we have, speaking of 'faux', is a faux savior complex, when most of(despite how much we may differ on immigration), see through the bs,and know most ALL groups are just here to, put plainly: get that bag!! Nothing else! Even at our expense.
We're under no illusions that others(inclu) Fb genuinely care, or are here for the long haul. 'We all we got' is more than just a sm catchphrase.

Now, *some are, to be fair, but far too many are not, and gladly play into White supremacy's purposeful supplanting of native Blacks by presenting themselves as 'acceptable alternatives', working to undermine the interests of the collective for personal gain.

That is the issue that YOU need to address within your communities--less about the graduation/poor educational performance, within mine! We can,and will work on correcting them...which, btw great progress has been made over the past 15, or so years, despite right-wing talking points. Regardless, as hard as it is to believe your educational 'successes' are not the biggest point of contention: it's the lack of contribution.
If not, you run the risk of more,and more BA becoming vocal, and showing their growing dissatisfaction with 'friends' who refuse to pull their own weight.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Legal immigration. Yes.

Illegals? Hell. No.

 

[Robbie3000]

Thanks, but as an native born Black, I don't require any history lessons of what whites are capable of, or what their ultimate goal is; as I'd be listed as the authority on the very topic.
Also, what of this 'supporting their goals', again, you act as if the ppl who have the MOST experience, know and act with the LEAST strategy!!

Given our experience, point blank, period, been at this game for 400+ years; we kinda know what we're doing, make no mistake.
Last thing we have, speak of 'faux', is a faux savior complex, when most of..despite however much we may differ on immigration, see through the bs,and know most ALL groups are just here to put it plainly: to get that bag!! Nothing else! Even if it most cases is at our expense.
We're under no illusions that others(inclu) Fb genuinely care, or are here for the long haul. 'We all we got' is more than just a sm catchphrase.

Now, *some are, to be fair, but far too many are not, and gladly play into White supremacy's purposely supplanting of native Blacks by presenting themselves as 'acceptable alternatives', and working to undermine the interests of the collective for personal gain.

That is the issue that YOU need to address within your communities--less about the graduation/poor educational performance, within mine! We can,and will work on correcting them...which, btw great progress has been made over the past 15, or so years, despite right-wing talking points. Regardless, as hard as it is to believe your educational 'successes' are not the biggest point of contention: it's the lack of contribution.
If not, you run the risk of more,and more BA becoming vocal, and showing their growing satisfaction with 'friends' who refuse to pull their own weight.

I’m bored so I will engage your nonsense.

What is this contribution you speak of that we are not making?

Is it monetary? Is it like the mob where we put 10% of our earnings in an envelope And present it to the local godfather?



And you damn right, we are here to get the bag. We wouldn’t have left our countries if we were not looking for better opportunities.
You going to hate on that too?

 

[Pressure]

nikkas blaming everyone but racists white folks again.

 

[T'krm]

I’m bored so I will engage your nonsense.

What is this contribution you speak of that we are not making?

Is it monetary? Is it like the mob where we put 10% of our earnings in an envelope And present it to the local godfather?



And you damn right, we are here to get the bag. We wouldn’t have left our countries if we were not looking for better opportunities.
You going to hate on that too?

And now that that's becoming more and more clear like a de-fogged rear-view mirror, we're free to adjust accordingly.

 

[Robbie3000]

And now that that's becoming more and more clear like a de-fogged rear-view mirror, we're free to adjust accordingly.

You remind me of those salty dusty ass bums who be setting up so-called no fly zones just on black celebs alone.

 

[T'krm]

You remind me of those salty dusty ass bums who be setting up so-called no fly zones just on black celebs alone.

A proud Americandos who places AAdos issues, first, w/o an ounce of shame!
Will no longer be a ' Black,minority, POC' , non white male ect. agenda, w/o an AAdos agenda!!
That includes any, and ALL who fall under that umbrella, including the dem the party itself; who fight, and advocate for everything else, off our back!
Want our contribution, come to figurative table w/ genuine offers in return, or else, step!
We got enough of our own problems to sort out, free ride is over.

 

[Pressure]

Bitter dusty nikkas. Y'all hate other black people now?

 

[theworldismine13]

It’s not about subverting

there’s no such thing as a single issue struggle

how about building coalitions and movements outside of the Democratic Party who’s sole interest is protecting capital; so that we as a people don’t have to solely rely on electoral politics to improve the material conditions of both marginalized people.

there’s more to politics that people should have to realize we’d be necessary to take on as oppose to waiting for election time to roll around.

the thing you have to realize is that your intersectionalism is actually a weak and cowardly strategy, there is nothing wrong with a coalition per se, but there is something inherently weak and cowardly when building a coalition IS your strategy

when i read posts like yours or articles in the OP all i see is false bravado from a weak person that has no real ideas about how to fight white supremacy

there is nobody coming to save black people, a progressive coalition, black brown coalition is all bullshyt, black people wether native or immigrants have to fight white supremacy mano a mano, the only coalition worth having is one where black people are on top

as for this topic, even if you put aside the AADOS perspective, immigration is still not a black issue, 90 percent of illegal immigrants are non black, and the vast majority of legal immigrants are non black, so there is no real reason for black people to be at the forefront of that battle

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

by this logic, when a cop kills a black person we shouldn’t care because cops statistically kill whites and natives at higher rates than us.

and the fact you so gleefully toss aside what has been done to our brothers and sisters is nothing short of pure selfishness and cowardice

like I said

youre ok in complicity with white supremacy when it’s convient for you.

and the fact you completely disregard the mountains of history in regards to the gains made by various civil rights groups who saw that they were facing the same oppressor, just that their marginalisation was conducted different but still wanted to find common ground with other groups, is your own short sightedness

but you don’t even understand what intersectionality even is, so I’m really just wasting my time, then again it ain’t like you’d even rally for the rights of poor black folk, so no loss really

the thing you have to realize is that your intersectionalism is actually a weak and cowardly strategy, there is nothing wrong with a coalition per se, but there is something inherently weak and cowardly when building a coalition IS your strategy

when i read posts like yours or articles in the OP all i see is false bravado from a weak person that has no real ideas about how to fight white supremacy

there is nobody coming to save black people, a progressive coalition, black brown coalition is all bullshyt, black people wether native or immigrants have to fight white supremacy mano a mano, the only coalition worth having is one where black people are on top

as for this topic, even if you put aside the AADOS perspective, immigration is still not a black issue, 90 percent of illegal immigrants are non black, and the vast majority of legal immigrants are non black, so there is no real reason for black people to be at the forefront of that battle

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

Bitter dusty nikkas. Y'all hate other poor black people now?

FTFY

 

[Gains]

well , you got hotep types calling themselves black white supremacists now

 

[theworldismine13]

by this logic, when a cop kills a black person we shouldn’t care because cops statistically kill whites and natives at higher rates than us.

and the fact you so gleefully toss aside what has been done to our brothers and sisters is nothing short of pure selfishness and cowardice

like I said

youre ok in complicity with white supremacy when it’s convient for you.

and the fact you completely disregard the mountains of history in regards to the gains made by various civil rights groups who saw that they were facing the same oppressor, just that their marginalisation was conducted different but still wanted to find common ground with other groups, is your own short sightedness

but you don’t even understand what intersectionality even is, so I’m really just wasting my time, then again it ain’t like you’d even rally for the rights of poor black folk, so no loss really

by my logic when a cop murders a black person the cop should be murdered himself, ultimately what really happened to black people is that we didnt kill our enemies when they arrived on the shores of africa 500 years ago, but i digress

im a pan africanist, i support all black people so i dont know what you are talking about

i understand intersectionalism perfectly well, no real black man or black woman with a proper understanding of the situation black people are in supports intersectionalism,, intersectionalism is something that cowardly black people who have no ideas on fighting white supremacy hide behind, ultimately its a cowardly cry for help of a weak man or woman who thinks other people are going to come and save him or her

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

you actually don’t support all black people because your previous responses in this thread indicate the opposite

don’t make me dunk on you in two threads

please don’t

I’m not even that smart

by my logic when a cop murders a black person the cop should be murdered himself, ultimately what really happened to black people is that we didnt kill our enemies when they arrived on the shores of africa 500 years ago, but i digress

im a pan africanist, i support all black people so i dont know what you are talking about

i understand intersectionalism perfectly well, no real black man or black woman with a proper understanding of the situation black people are in supports intersectionalism,, intersectionalism is something that cowardly black people who have no ideas on fighting white supremacy hide behind, ultimately its a cowardly cry for help of a weak man or woman who thinks other people are going to come and save him or her