Can you disapprove this? Or are you just going with no?
Because I’m pretty confident these guys didn’t get asylum when the snuck in from Mexico after fleeing the civil war in El-Salvador.
Immigration is Very Much A Black Issue
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Can you disapprove this? Or are you just going with no?
Because I’m pretty confident these guys didn’t get asylum when the snuck in from Mexico after fleeing the civil war in El-Salvador.
Also the MS13 gang was doing heinous shyt in their exploits...It doesn't help that there's a bunch of El salvadorians doing it. Trump is stoking WHITE fears by mentioning them constantly...
Not me...
it's true tho....
white people get terrified of that shyt I'm more afraid of the cops killing me on some bullshyt in cold blood than a gang on long island...
So you didn’t read your own article I guess. I said they were illegal immigrants fleeing the civil war from El Salvador and your article agrees with me. Relying on the Washington post to do your research because you don’t feel like debating seems like a waste of time.
MS13
I said they were illegal immigrants fleeing the civil war from El Salvador and your article agrees with me. Relying on the Washington post to do your research because you don’t feel like debating seems like a waste of time.
Refugees. Legal residents under Temporary Protected status as a result of the Salvadoran Civil War.
You'd know this if you kept up on the news when Trump tried to deport 200k of them by removing their protected status. Just like Haitian refugees.
Trump Administration Says That Nearly 200,000 Salvadorans Must Leave
Yes, the gang was started by the children of immigrant refugees. No, these are no illegal immigrants.
Go to bed.
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
Only reason they came here in the first place is because we supported a dictatorship that massacres innocent ass people
but of course, always blame the symptom not the cause
but of course, always blame the symptom not the cause
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Nah OP as black people we need to ignore ever issue no matter how it could come back to effect us, cuz Gods Plan, right?
With the unavoidable amount of coverage of issues around immigration and deportation in the U.S., there’s one prevailing narrative among a portion of Black people. There’s an argument that Black activists, organizers and others in our communities need not put our time and efforts into addressing immigration because “that’s not our issue.”
This is an entirely nonsensical (albeit very much typical) stance for several reasons:
First and foremost, Black immigrants exist
It’s wild to me that this would even need to be explained, but not every Black person in the U.S. came here the same way. While 100’s of thousands of Africans were brought to the U.S. for chattel slavery, millions were taken to Central & Latin american countries. Over 4 million enslaved Africans were brought to Brazil by the Portuguese, alone. Next to Africa, the largest population of Black people is in Latin america. Are we really assuming that none of these people came to the U.S., post-Emancipation? This isn’t including all of the people who immigrated to the U.S. directly from Africa. As of 2015, the overall number of Black people in the U.S. who came here from other countries was just under 4 million. And rapidly growing (which should be no surprise, given how U.S. foreign policy ravages Black and Brown nations around the globe, to the point where people have to leave).
Black people are disproportionately targeted by immigration policies
As with most any other form of oppression in this country, Black people are disproportionately affected by immigration policies. While Black people only make up around 7% of all immigrants in the U.S., they make up 20% of those targeted for deportation. Unfortunately, this jarring fact is erased in the larger discourse around immigration, which often centers Brown and/or Indigenous immigrants in the narrative. Mexico is often considered synonymous with immigration issues, but they currently make up around half of all known undocumented immigrants, a steep decline from past years. Meanwhile, immigrants of African descent, from various nations, are on the rise.
Immigration is ingrained in the (anti-Black) prison industrial complex
This, in conjunction with the previous two points, is an important rebuttal to people who claim that immigration “isn’t our issue.” While we know that Black people are the primary target of oppression from police in the U.S., we generally haven’t connected the dots that this directly ties in with immigration. One of the main reasons that Black immigrants are disproportionately found and detained by ICE, is because they were originally profiled and detained by police. Many immigrants have ended up deported, all going back to a simple traffic stop. Also, the private prison industry, and its labor exploitation of incarcerated people, is pretty widely-known to function as modern-day slavery. But what isn’t talked about as much is how the same is now being done for detention centers, specifically for holding immigrants. Also similar to private prisons, these detention centers coerce detainees into putting in labor in order to pay for basic necessities. They make all of around $2 per day. The parallels, here, should be obvious.
Shoutout to Patricia Okoumou (and immigrant from the Democratic Republic of Congo, by the way)…..and fukk that statue lying ass statue
These are just some of the foremost examples of how immigration issues directly affect Black people. So, why is it that so many people in our communities have such a problem with us focusing any energy on immigration issues? Why do people consider this a “distraction” from “our” “real” issues? How could one respond to an issue that clearly affects so many within diaspora with retorts of “we have to put our own race first?” Well, I have a theory on this and it’s actually pretty simple:
They simply don’t care and want the rest of the Black community to also not care.
And to go a step beyond that, I want people to notice a pattern with this kind of dismissive attitude towards Black immigrants. Notice how it’s often a particular demographic of the Black community (primarily cis-hetero, abled, male U.S. citizens) driving that narrative? And notice how this is the same demographic that carries similar bitterness towards Black activism that centers issues affecting LGBTQ people, women, disabled people, sex workers, etc (even though, like immigrants, all of these issues also affect large amounts of Black people)?
That’s not a coincidence. This is just another instance of a demographic, which has already historically been centered in most everything concerning Blackness, feeling salty because Black people are now, in greater numbers, addressing issues that (they falsely believe) don’t directly affect them. It’s lowkey just them finding a pseudo-intellectual way of screaming “NO! OVER HERE! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!”
What makes this impulsive selfishness really insidious is that they have the gall to frame it as part of some kind of “Black Unity” or “Black/Race First” praxis. When they say things like that, or “We have to focus on our own issues,” what they really mean is they want the community to only focus on the specific issues that are most heavily associated with Black men who are cisgender, hetero, abled citizens…nothing else matters to these folks.
I want us to peep that BS and be clear on what actually is happening, there. Thus, not allow yourself to be manipulated into abandoning issues that are crucial for us to address if we ever wanna actually see real, lasting progress for Black people.
Much like with issues concerning people who are LGBTQ, women, sex workers and/or disabled, etc., issues concerning immigrants need to be addressed from a Black/diaspora-centered perspective if we want to develop complete, holistic solutions for addressing anti-Black oppression.
We’re not free unless we’re all free. Period.
P.S. For those of you who this applies to…who want Black people to only focus on such a specific, limited portion of the Black community. If you’re gonna do that, that’s your prerogative, but at least be honest. Stop trying to frame your selfishness under the guise of “Black Unity” and just say that you’re self-centered trash with your chest. Please & Thanks!
Immigration is Very Much A Black Issue • Angry Black Hoemo
The article started off making halfway decent points about black immigrants being disproportionately affected and tying the issue to the prison industrial complex. Then towards the end it veered off into shytting on straight black men and talking about how LGBTQ rights should be supported by the black community. The writer is a fraud trying to take an important issue and use it to garner attention and support for something else entirely.
While I support immigration reform and believe the black community should too, this article is bullshyt.
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
Here you have it OP.
I recently had to end a friendship with one of these types after he told me the US should end all immigrations even from black countries.
I thought it was just some online shyt, but apparently, there are a lot of very hateful xenophobic AA out here.
Lol
nobody is xenophobic over this white supremist nation- we just arent about to fight for random shyt until we have specific AA policies.. Or other policies that help Our communities.Do we think the usa doesn't have a good immigration policy compared to other nations?
You nikkas live in a bubble, even worse.. An emotional brainwashed by liberals bubble.
nikkas immigrant here every day B. I guess I would support a Specific policy that ends the policies that lean against some black Caribbean nations... Other than than , naw
I be w immigrants every day and one of my business partners just came here like 10 yrs ago, it wasn't easy but its not impossible..
Yall fighting for latinos who either are illegal, dont like black folk, or who pull from social resources. Illegal immigration isn't a human right
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
I’m against borders so miss me with that liberal shyt
Lol
Do we think the usa doesn't have a good immigration policy compared to other nations?
You nikkas live in a bubble, even worse.. An emotional brainwashed by liberals bubble.
nikkas immigrant here every day B. I guess I would support a Specific policy that ends the policies that lean against some black Caribbean nations... Other than than , naw
I be w immigrants every day and one of my business partners just came here like 10 yrs ago, it wasn't easy but its not impossible..
Yall fighting for latinos who either are illegal, dont like black folk, or who pull from social resources. Illegal immigration isn't a human right
Well, then you're simply illogical and unrealist.
Nothing wrong w being an idealist i guess
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
being against borders that were written by colonizers is illogical ?
that’s funny
that’s funny
Well, then you're simply illogical and unrealist.
Nothing wrong w being an idealist i guess