I AM WARHOL
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Bronsexuals dont respect the history if the game. It is what it is
Imagine 6’9 280 lebron vs this competition.....
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Lord_Chief_Rocka
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Pre mid-2000s AND perimeter players.....
VegetasHairline
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LeBron is potentially two shots away from being the Jerry West of this era.
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Adrian Dantley, Bernard King, George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry, Tiny Archibald, Pete Maravich, Larry Bird, Alex English, Jerry West, Jamal Mashburn, etc. these aren’t perimeter players now?
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LeBron would legit average more points on that era, and would arguably have more accomplishments.fukk out of here. The fact that they play in different eras HELPS Lebron.Bron’s arguments are basically held up by longevity stats.
Like are u serious? Look at how much sharper and aesthetically better Jordan’s game is. Plus the fact that Jordan objectively accomplished more in less time.
If Jordan and Bron played in their primes at the same time we’d look at them the way we look at Bron vs D Wade .
What the fukk does aesthetics have to do with basketball
? Do nikkas put points on the board or not? True, Jordan's game is sharper....but, again, what the fukk does that have to do with ball? You're sitting here and getting mesmerized by another man twirling in the air instead of looking at this from a logical standpoint."Longevity stats"
. What the fukk does this even mean? If it helps you sleep at night, then you're right......even though LeBron passed MJ while taking LESS shots
That last sentence is so ridiculous, that I'm not even gonna entertain it
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Lord_Chief_Rocka
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Hyperbole. Obviously Jordan wasn’t the only perimeter player to score 40+ prior the 2004. The point is things started to explode after that.Adrian Dantley, Bernard King, George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry, Tiny Archibald, Pete Maravich, Larry Bird, Alex English, etc. these aren’t perimeter players now?
Lord_Chief_Rocka
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Ninja do you even like basketball ball? Of course the way you do something matters. For that cac shyt y’all are talking about in here that sounds very old school cacishLeBron would legit average more points on that era, and would arguably have more accomplishments.
What the fukk does aesthetics have to do with basketball
"Longevity stats"
...even though LeBron passed MJ while taking LESS shots:bronlol:.
That last sentence is so ridiculous, that I'm not even gonna entertain it
All the other shyt is retarded. You’re just making shyt up.
Lord_Chief_Rocka
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That “less shots” thing is so fukking stupid too
They literally made that up on fly.
They literally made that up on fly.
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How so? The data doesn’t match that.
And all the nikkas that have scored 50 after your cut off are certified buckets in any era.
Unless you don’t believe guys like Steph, Harden, and Kobe wouldn’t be scoring 50 especially with no zones being guarded man-to-man.
Why is your cut off 2004? Basketball offense didn’t really explode until around 2015.
Dog just recently in the pace and space era of the last 5 years have teams begun scoring like they did in the 80’s and 60’s. A lot of offensive records from these eras haven’t even been broken to this day.
Lord_Chief_Rocka
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It’s not an arbitrary cut off. It was the year they changed the rules. I already posted the article but it’s whatever ninja. I’m out.How so? The data doesn’t match that.
And all the nikkas that have scored 50 after your cut off are certified buckets in any era.
Unless you don’t believe guys like Steph, Harden, and Kobe wouldn’t be scoring 50 especially with no zones being guarded man-to-man.
Why is your cut off 2004? Basketball offense didn’t really explode until around 2015.
Dog just recently in the pace and space era of the last 5 years have teams begun scoring like they did in the 80’s and 60’s. A lot of offensive records from these eras haven’t even been broken to this day.
fukk Lebulldozer.
murksiderock
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This ain't true and I think you know this. You can bracket their careers in any stretch you'd consider their "best" season (which by the numbers is '88 Mike vs '09 Bron), and stretch that out to best 2-year run, 3-year run, 4-year run, etc, and its inarguable, LeBron goes with Mike every step of the way...
That's what the numbers say, and you can include awards and accolades. Now, "eye test" crosses into different territory as nikkas can let their eyes tell them what they want to see, but you can do that if you wish, all the other Anti's on here go off of weird "eye test" descriptors that aren't validated on paper...
Also we could do the same exercise but not from a statistical basis and it still holds the same. Example, '09 was Bron at the very top of his game by the numbers but I don't think most people think that's the best version of him, as he wasn't even a champion yet, and I think most people would say the same about '88 Mike. When both became more seasoned they were slightly below peak powers yet still greater than anyone around them....the problem with that is when you aren't basing it as much on numbers, which I don't have an issue with by the way, there is gonna be wild disagreement as it's going off of things that aren't necessarily best measured on paper (mental fortitude, adjustments in style of play, etc)...
There is no truth whatsoever to the idea that Bron needs longevity stats to boost him. At this point longevity could only really boost his championship count, but looking player to player, LeBron has always been unquestionably on the very short list of most dominant players ever. That has nothing to do with longevity because he was dominating in Year 5 just like he was dominating in Year 10 just like he was dominating in Year 15, etc...
I’m pretty sure if nikkas didn’t try to make it seem like all MJ played against in his career was cacs and plumbers, nikkas wouldn’t feel so compelled to bring up Dallas
There's more than enough blame to go around, I don't disagree with that. And you know my posts, my talking points on Mike never hinge on guys being trash in his era, not my particular viewpoint...but cats bring up Dallas way more than cats talk about Mike's competition on here, just this season in every Bron thread there was a Dallas joke or meme...
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Cool but y’all doing the same thing.You also can’t take players who have 30 years of advancement and drop them into the 80s. The only reason the game is the way it is today is because the game evolved from players from the past.
you either gotta adjust Lebrons style of play to someone from the 80s(like a Magic or a Dominique) or adjust the Celtics to teams playing elite ball today.
That means turning Larry Bird into a prime Nowitzki who can pass and play D... along with the rest of the Celtics, either way Lebron isn’t dropping 60 on that team so it wouldn’t matter either way.
