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I would hope an all knowing, all powerful being would be capable of convincing his creation of his existence in a way that's clear, and unambiguous. That's if he truly cared about getting through to them.

We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?

-Surah Fussilat, Ayah 53


The very signs youre looking for are in your body.

 

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Is that really true? Do traditional Black African spiritual systems disparage black people?



Yes they do.
In Igbo traditional religions, twins were considered unclean and thrown into the bushes...literally.
In Congo today, pygmies are eaten as part of traditional African religion.
Charles taylor kept a batch of daily human blood to drink from based on the advise of African "traditional religion".
Salif Keita, the famous west African albino singer, describes witch doctors coming to try to hunt him to eat him for powers. This is present with albinos today.


The "traditional religion" of Africa and everywhere else is to worship one God and to honor his human creation. The demonic realm is what enters upon humankind to get them to corrupt that. In 337 Rome, the demons did it through Constantines adoption of Pauline paganism. In 1972 South Central, they did through the Bloods and Crips. In 1945 China, they did it through the introduction of communism and the insane mao zendong.
The demonic realm does this so that humans may turn away from their creator and then subsequently oppress each other without care (as the trinitarian protestant white man did to black folk.

Islam invites all to the worship of their lord and to the best path. But only those who follow guidande will benefit.


Say, “This is my way. I invite to Allah with insight—I and those who follow me. Glory be to Allah, and I am not one of the polytheists.”

-Surah Yusuf, Ayah 108
 

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I would hope an all knowing, all powerful being would be capable of convincing his creation of his existence in a way that's clear, and unambiguous. That's if he truly cared about getting through to them.
Well “God” is more of a presence to me and less like a person. It’s like when you enter a room, you know an energy exists, but it’s up to the individuals you’re associating with if the energy is positive or negative. So the energy is perfect until you get into the details and that’s similar with religion.
 

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More religion

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Go re read my post

Carefully and slowly
All I saw was a handful of anecdotes. You think I can't also produce a laundry list of heinous acts committed in the name of Islam?

If I produce a list of the heinous things done in the name of Islam, you'll say I'm being unfair and that it's humans corrupting Islam and it's not true Islam. Yet, when you do the same thing to Black African religions, it's fair. What a racist double standard.
 

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We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?

-Surah Fussilat, Ayah 53


The very signs youre looking for are in your body.


If a man emerged from the bushes talking about an Angel just conveyed to him the word of God, and surely when you ask for evidence like any reasonable person would, he provides the above quote. Would that be enough to convince you?
 

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Arabs invented the "Negro" slave.

As a brand

"With the Negro, he can't escape cause you can spot them in any crowd"

Cause of being Black

Next people had to invent racism to justify this kind of slavery. If we weren't real people then there was no problem treating us like animals.

So

Fukc that
 

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All I saw was a handful of anecdotes. You think I can't also produce a laundry list of heinous acts committed in the name of Islam?

If I produce a list of the heinous things done in the name of Islam, you'll say I'm being unfair and that it's humans corrupting Islam and it's not true Islam. Yet, when you do that to Black African religions it's fair. What a racist double standard.
You missed the point entirely.

The core theological tenet of traditional African religions involves rituals and beliefs that call for the sacrifice, cannibalization and murder of pygmies, albinos and other black people.

The core tenets of Islam do not.


Now if i gave you an analogy: poison kills, some people kill for food. Would your deduction be that poison bad, food bad. No, logically, it woild be poison bad, some people bad, food good.
 

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Well “God” is more of a presence to me and less like a person. It’s like when you enter a room, you know an energy exists, but it’s up to the individuals you’re associating with if the energy is positive or negative. So the energy is perfect until you get into the details and that’s similar with religion.
Is that presence singular, and universal? Meaning do we all feel the same "God", or are each of us experiencing our own unique presence?

Also, is what you're describing essentially just a feeling?
 

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If a man emerged from the bushes talking about an Angel just conveyed to him the word of God, and surely when you ask for evidence like any reasonable person would, he provides the above quote. Would that be enough to convince you?
Well lets see:
That man was known for comple sanity and good character for 40 years before receiving revelation
That mans revelation calls to something that is resonant with the human spirit.
That mans revelation is poetically and linguistically unmatched despite not being able to read .
That man conquers the entire Arabia despite never having fought a war
That mans religion defeats the dominant powers of its time
That mans religion remaining the only widely practiced religion today.
That mans religion being the single most hated thing by the worst people to ever grace the earth (european imperialists)
That man predicting all of the above when there was a greater chance of him dying than making it to the next day.

Well then, id give it a listen
 

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The core theological tenet of traditional African religions involves rituals and beliefs that call for the sacrifice, cannibalization and murder of pygmies, albinos and other black people.

Is it really true that ALL Black African religions believed in these things? What's your source? Because that sounds like a racist generalization.
 
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