I'm Sorry But Fat Joe is not a Culture Vulture, AT ALL!

[god shamgod]

He’s really not , musically he fell off years ago but dude been entrenched in this hip hop shyt. Flow joe came out almost 30 years ago he was in ditc before he blew up solo

Edit: I don’t co-sign Puerto Rican’s sayin nikka tho, got into it with a pr co worker a few months ago who was sayin nikka left n right. You ain’t black stop sayin that shyt. You can try to affiliate yourself all u want but that’s literally a black thing to me

 

[Raw Lyrics]

see, what most people fail to understand is that in NYC , in those days, while technically living in the same hoods, the 2 cultures were not close associates. What would happen is that you always get a handful of latins (cubans and ricans prior to hiphop era and mainly ricans during hiphop) would attempt to explore Afram culture and at some point would get invited in by Aframs. What also ended up happening because Afram musical culture was the dominant form in not only NYC but the USA at large, Latins had to rock with Aframs if they really want to get on. This is how Latins made it big in Afram jazz circles (1920/1930/1940) prior to the Mambo Big Bands (late 1940s into 1950s) and later, Salsa (1970s) which were heavily based in Afram Jazz scene

.....this is the same reason why puerto rican youth of the 1960's went high and far out of their way to craft a music (the first mainstream latin pop music genre) that displayed trapping of afram life/musical culture

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samething would happen later in Disco; aframs innovate/pioneer-->ricans show up later after being invited in and then open the flood gates for their people

...and then people think Ricans were there from the startclub 371 was a black club/disco

aframs weren't going to no latino clubs

Great post.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

When NWA emerges in the late 80s, traditional Black culture veers off, and nikka Culture is essentially born and dominates today.

Which is why proponents of nikka Culture revolve their identity not around the rich legacies that incorporate spirituals, ragtime, the blues, jazz, gospel, funk, disco, reggae, house, call and response -- they center their form of identity on who can and cannot call each other "nikka."

But they've been raised by Eazy, Ren, Yella, Dre, Cube, Pac, Suge, Snoop, Biggie, etc. so it is understandable.

NWA DID NOT invent that, that's something that actually existed for decades and was first exposed by Blaxploitation films

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

NWA DID NOT invent that, that's something that actually existed for decades and was first exposed by Blaxploitation films

He meant in music, it became a formulae within rap music.

 

[BulletProof]

Put up any rappers elementary school picture you'll get the same result idiot

Pretty much.

The fukk did you expect him to look like in middle school?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

He meant in music, it became a formulae within rap music.

Yeah, in rap music NWA was the first to really put it out there but in actual black urban culture it was already a thing which is where Blaxploitation films and later, NWA got it from.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Yeah, in rap music NWA was the first to really put it out there but in actual black urban culture it was already a thing which is where Blaxploitation films and later, NWA got it from.

Richard Pryor, Paul mooney and more were N shouting in their stand ups before sweet ass badass (van peebles) film was made.. It all came from the streets anyway.. Yep.

 

[RedBull]

Hip Hop is a Black and Spanish thing. The 5 elements were created by Blacks and Spanish. Everything else is semantics. Stop being petty.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Imma keep it real with you. Idk why this fact bothers black people who aren’t from NY so much. It’s the same issue I have with people who get bothered that Cali has asian crips

idk their politics so I’m not going to waste my time getting mad at it.


I also don’t get people who just want all the glory. What’s wrong with sharing it?

who the heck does this with ados/ aframs lol

 

[K.O.N.Y]

And I can’t believe I missed this thread. A lot of “Steven’s” and c00ning being done in here

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

He meant in music, it became a formulae within rap music.

The completely bizarre notion that "Blackness" is somehow regulated by who can or cannot say "nikka" is an unfortunate manifestation of post-NWA influences.

Just imagine Frankie Beverly or Alicia Myers attempting to squeeze in n-word (with the "-er" ending from that generation...) references into their music after watching Shaft or Superfy.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Black Brits, Jamaicans and Africans take Black film roles and militants get mad. Say they not real ADOS. Not a part of our heritage. Not like us.

But in terms of Hip Hop though, suddenly it’s all Black baby eventhough a lot of these muthafukkas were from the islands, England, etc. Its just like Blues. Even though Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa and Grandmaster Flash were all Caribbean Nothing different about the origins at all. Troll on

Early hiphop was all black/ados to the point that even the West Indians that were around such as Herc had to almost hide their heritage. HIpHop came from Southern migrant--->to NYC energy from the dance down to the music





herc's own boys (A1 bboy Sasa and trixie) from back in the day confirm this





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Straight from Baam:







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Straight from Herc:









more from from herc specifically on disco/soundsystem/party culture and the dances along with the music that was played

some of the clubs and music that Herc witnessed afram dj culture from way before he was a dj

the same Tunnel Plaza is where the black spades used to do their "burning" dances while shouting Spade Power!

 

[Positive Posting]

He’s really not , musically he fell off years ago but dude been entrenched in this hip hop shyt. Flow joe came out almost 30 years ago he was in ditc before he blew up solo

Edit: I don’t co-sign Puerto Rican’s sayin nikka tho, got into it with a pr co worker a few months ago who was sayin nikka left n right. You ain’t black stop sayin that shyt. You can try to affiliate yourself all u want but that’s literally a black thing to me

get fired for getting into it with Puerto Rican’s at work breh.

 

[god shamgod]

get fired for getting into it with Puerto Rican’s at work breh.

man shut the fukk up , who said I got fired bozo

 

[boriquaking]

man shut the fukk up , who said I got fired bozo

Get sexually assaulted by a Puerto Rican at work brehs ​