I’m sorry but, Biden doesn’t deserve to be president.

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I remember Obama and Hillary marketing her as Obama’s third term but I’m not sure voters believed them. If I remember correctly Obama had an over 60% approval rating before he left office. If Biden ran instead of Hillary Trump would have lost
Why wouldn't they believe it when Obama was going hard that it was true? He's well liked but not believable? :patrice:
 

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nah :yeshrug:

biden is a generic, moderate candidate that appeals to the widest range of voters, and was the visible, loyal VP of the most popular democrat of all time. the fact that hes winning off name recognition from his basement proves it

its like @Piff Perkins said, hes an avatar for the democratic party :dead:


Politics are about time and place. Different issues matter at different times. This election is a referendum on Donald Trump. By virtue of that, who is going to be the most readily accepted person by large groups of people to have enough voters to vote for him/her. We realized early on that person would be Joe Biden. That one fact totally overshadows UBI, ACA, immigration, etc. Donald Trump had to go. Full stop. We need to stop the bullshyt now, sort out a few major things then worry about the comeback. The goal now is to stave off what we can salvage so there is a dream deferred for a lot of things but again, time and place. Trump has done more damage to America than any adversary ever has. The president of the United States is an enemy of the United States. Do you understand how wild it is to type that out? That's why he needs to go. Electibility might not be fair but life isn't anyway. Don't miss the forest for the trees here. Biden is the starting point, not the destination.
 

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They didn't believe she was going to enact the policies she was going to run on because of how they perceived her as a person.

You've even made this argument.

I kind of agree, but I don't even think it was really about policy at all. 2016 was largely a caclash against Obama. :yeshrug:
 

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I kind of agree, but I don't even think it was really about policy at all. 2016 was largely a caclash against Obama. :yeshrug:
Trump lost the popular vote badly, I think people forget about that fact a lot. Hillary lost due to political incompetence, complacency, racism and apathy. Trump never had the majority of America on his side.

why the fukk was Tim Kaine the VP and not Bernie?
 

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I would love to see a quote of that argument I made for reference.

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Voters who hate Hillary but like Obama confuse the fukk out of me

While they are relatively the same in many issues Obama isn't nearly as corrupt as Hillary/Bill are. He seemed to be smart enough to wait and know the $ will come eventually and he can do it legally and you see he's cakng now.
Plus, being Black in America come on he's just an impressive likable person. I fell for his shyt hard. He just seems like a great guy.
 

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Seems that is more about corruption than follow thru on what they will do for the public policy wise vs what they run on but I see what you are getting at. But after eight years even the sheen on Obama's G was wearing off.

I think the policy angle was more about new voters not joining in after she picked up some more liberal positions. In my canvassing it was common to hear folks say they didn't believe she would follow through and she was just merely pandering for votes.

Imagine how unlikable you have to be for people get upset at you for quoting Beyonce lyrics. :russ::mjlol:
 
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