Video 1: Not related to anything in the thread, except for the fact that you made a thread challenging me to a flat earth debate, but somehow you think it was me that called you out? Isn't that what the definition of "challenging" someone is? Or am I crazy?
Yeah, you are crazy, because YOU told ME to BUMP another thread! Nikka, I posted what you said in the original post of this thread! Anyone can read what you told me to do.
So instead of rehashing another thread, I made a fresh one.
YOU CALLED ME OUT, saying I apparently had something on my chest, like you're on my mind or some shyt. I made a general statement based on the OP of the original thread, and you got froggy.
Now you gotta leap nikka
Video 2: You're still repeating the exact same concept even though I showed you where you were wrong but cool. Take that last image of the globe that you posted(the one that shows lights on the dark side of the earth but yet still does not show any stars on that side). Where are dawn and dusk occurring specifically in that image?
Also, dawn and dusk are characterized by being the time of day where the sun's light is still being cast in an area, even though the sun may have crossed the horizon
They are a part of the DAY, meaning that when you add those times of DAY in with the time of DAY that the sun is shining fully on an area, the time that DAY is occurring increases to 50%+
You can't gish gallop your way out of this one-- Day and Night are the two all encompassing phases of that cycle. It's not called the Day, Dawn, Dusk, Night cycle, it is called the diurnal cycle, "di" meaning "two".
"two, double, twice, twofold," from Greek di-, shortened form of dis "twice," which is… See origin and meaning of di-.
www.etymonline.com
en.wikipedia.org
Video 3: This goes right back to where you're wrong from video 2. You seem to think that the gif that I posted is somehow a to-scale, completely accurate map of the flat earth model when I have said multiple times that it isn't. You seem to think that just because whoever made that gif, made it with the sun's light being the size that it is, that there's no way that the sun's light could actually cover a LARGER span than it does in the gif. I figured that you would find some fairly insignificant part of any crude image that I posted and that you would try and harp on it, so I'm ready to move on when you are because you don't seem to understand that the sun's light is actually covering more ground than what you see in that gif
And once again, as stated earlier in this thread, there are areas around the antarctic that experience 24 hour day and 24 hour night. Those areas SPECIFICALLY DO NOT experience the same 24 hour sun pathing, so what are you even talking about??
Lol it literally doesn't matter if that gif is to scale, and not once did I make a reference to scale. I, myself, posted images that weren't to scale, because scale isn't the point of the illustration. You're not getting out of this by trying to change the subject, moving the argument to who created that gif, and about "scale". Nuh uh.
Your "model" shows the sun rotating above a flat disk, which is what YOU BELIEVE. The continents exist, regardless of their scale on that model, because we know they exist as people live in these places.
As I showed on the World Day/Night map, on December 21st 2022, Western Australia, South Africa and Argentina will be experiencing day, all at the same time. So, if your sun is rotating in and outward above a flat disk, it would have to somehow stretch the sunlight in an unnatural way to reach Western Australia, Argentina and South Africa, meaning on the flat disk, more than 75% of the Earth will be shrouded in Sunlight. It does not matter if this is "to scale" nikka, those places exist on the Earth, so the sunlight would have to cover 75% of the Earth to reach all three. Look at the model you showed, and pay attention to where those places are. Scale does not matter
And as for Antarctica experiencing 24h sunlight, doesn't that debunk literally everything you've ever said???
In the Northern Hemisphere Winter, you believe the Sun rotating in a wider ring, farthest from us here in the North. According to your belief, the sun shouldn't be seen 24 hours a day, because it's rotating around a giant disk, meaning it should disappear from view in the Antarctic.
You know you fukked up, right?
This literally disproves everything you said in the last part of video 3. The sun would appear to not be setting for such and extended time because it's moving in a WIDER CIRCUMFERENCE above that area in the antarctic. Notice how this was taken in DECEMBER, when it's WINTER TIME for the northern hemisphere
No it doesn't! It literally proves we're on a ball that is spinning! Lmao!
You would never see the sun for 24 hours from a single point in the Antarctic if the Sun was rotating above the Earth in a wide ass circle like you believe:
That video was taken in SUMMER for the Antarctic (December), which is exactly when the Globe Earth predicts you'd be able to see the sun for 24 hours. Goddamn you are incredibly easy to debunk lmao:
Video 4: Yeah you didn't understand what I said so now you're arguing from a basis of ignorance. Hawaii is very close to the equator. About half the distance that new york is. If florida (which is further away from the equator) rarely experiences seasonal shift, then why would hawaii(an island closer to the equator than florida) experience season shift? Be specific in your answer
No, YOU don't understand what you are saying. You tried to invoke Thermodynamics, when you clearly don't understand thermodynamics. Please show a scientific paper that explains seasonal shift with Thermodynamics.
Remember, thermodynamics is a scientific concept, so you must provide scientific sources if you're going to invoke science. You cannot post links or images from other flat earthers who also don't understand thermodynamics.
Further, you clearly didn't understand the argument I was making. I'm the one telling YOU that Hawaii doesn't experience much, if any, variation of temperature throughout the year. The point was that, because it is NOT on the Equator, and is on the 21st North Parallel, making it a part of the Northern Hemisphere, then during Southern Hemisphere Summer, Hawaii should be very far away from the rotating-above-the-disk Sun, causing it to have a significant season shift.
The fact that it DOESN'T means the Sun is not rotating above the Earth breh lol. You clearly didn't understand what I was saying, and that's because you are not smart enough to understand the shyt YOU are saying YOURSELF. You are literally repeating what other Flat Earthers say and not critically thinking about the shyt you're regurgitating.
You bringing up Florida makes that argument WORSE. Florida is even further from the Equator, but still rarely experiences seasonal shift. Again: YOUR EXPLANATION FOR THE SEASONS IS THAT THE SUN IS ROTATING INWARD AND OUTWARD OVER THE EARTH.
If that were the reasons for the seasonal shifts, why doesn't Florida (a location that would receive even LESS sunlight than Hawaii according to YOUR BELIEF) experience any significant seasonal shift?
You are literally debunking your own argument here and don't even realize it
Video 5: By this logic then would and should be seeing a reddish moon at almost every sunset since the atmosphere is scattering that light every night
So in essence, sunlight, which illuminates the moon, makes the moon looks white, up until the point where the earth is supposed to cast a black shadow fully on the moon, at with point the sunlight makes the moon look red. Please feel free to post an example of this phenomena occurring anywhere else, like in an experiment on light refraction or something
Jesus Christ.
Fam, the red atmosphere comes from the sun's light passing through the thickest parts of the atmosphere. During a Lunar Eclipse, the Sun, Earth and Moon are all roughly aligned. Normally, they are NOT aligned, meaning those sun rays passing through the atmosphere are not there, so the Moon appears in its natural color.
The alignment causes the same effect as a sunset.
However, YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THIS AT ALL. You can't explain the curved shadow on the moon, nor can you explain the color.
Video 6: The shadow you created in your video WAS an ellipse
The shadow on the moon that I posted what vertical with no curve to it whatsoever. THAT WAS MY POINT. Recreate that on your wall please
No it was not. It was perfectly circular. Learn what shapes are.
This is not what the shadow in my video looked like, please stop.
Video 7: I'm not even sure what the point of this video was. I just asked you to post a video of someone looking west and watching the sunset. That's what I did and you can see the sun appear to get smaller as it moves away from you
I'm not sure where all that extra "equator" talk came from because it was unnecessary. There was nothing to "debunk" here. I posted a factual video that everyone can see with their own eyes
The point was to show that multiple, independent amateur photographers all recorded the sun setting and the sun's apparent size did not change. You lied on me, saying I was being disingenuous posting one video of the sun setting, so I sent you multiple.
"All that extra equator talk" was me explaining to you that in order to see the sun set parallel to the camera, you need to be in a place close to the Equator, like Jakarta Indonesia, which is where my video came from, proving this. In the videos that are not on the equator, the Sun usually sets at an angle, because the Earth is tilted at a 23 degree angle.
The video you posted was in fact disingenuous. You showed a video of a person not understanding how particles in the air affect the appearance of the Sun. Scattered particulates can make the light from the sun appear bigger, and when the sun passes through a clearer part of the sky, that effect dissipates and the sun appears in its normal apparent size.