Playa, let's stop before we even get started. I'm not going to go down to the "get married brehs" sh#t to argue a point about a man not having his own residence as a 32 year old dude. This isn't about what a woman does or doesn't do.....its about grown men co-signing other grown men living at home as a life choice.
So, you want to use examples of dudes getting divorced or cheated on as a means to debunk the importance of a grown man having his own place? Breh, I don't even know where to start with that level of bullsh#t, so I won't. Miss me with that sh#t.
And I'm not placing too much value on women. What I'm saying is that I would assume that every dude in this thread who's co-signing this line of thinking would be startled at how wack they look in the eyes of women who have their own. Any dude who thinks him living with his mommy and daddy is a good look is on another planet. Dudes want to make my argument to be p#ssy-based when its not. As I said, even if a dude was not looking for women, he should have his own space...especially if he's in his 30s.
And when did I say that a dude should be going broke trying to sustain himself or living beyond his means? Also, please point me directly to the statement I MADE where I stated or even insinuated that a man should go broke trying to impress a woman. I would like to read this since I can't ever remember typing it.
Peace
Let's take it down a notch, ease all the hostility. I didn't even disagree with your post, I just provided alternative ways of looking at the same issue,.
Your posts were deeply rooted in the stance that if a dude wasn't dropping some money on his own crib, he would be getting ousted by the ladies and disrespected by his fellow man and should have a self-esteem level close to "0". I agree, those situations are out there. All I did was elaborate on was the opposite side of the coin.
Even in this post I just quoted, you're bringing up how dudes look to women who have their own place, and I'm telling YOU that I'VE seen women who run dudes through the house every week and DON'T CARE if dude is a homebody or not. And they are not bum ass women either. I got my own spot and the women I've hit have let dudes with no crib of thier own hit too. So if I got a crib just for access I'd be a sucker, no? I'm not disagreeing with the fact that it may look wack to some women, I'm just saying it's women out there who don't give a damn, so why would someone go for broke trying to impress one half when they can go for the other half and BE HAPPY saving up some money?
Self-esteem? Okay cool. If that person bases their self esteem on a woman that has her own place giving them p*ssy, or some guys saying "Hey, im jealous" then he will feel better, but that argument is like a guy in a Nissan and a guy in a Benz.
You're the dude in the benz saying "How are you happy in that Nissan? Look at my benz. Look at how people look at my benz. Look at how my benz drives. Look at the woman in my benz. And the guy in the Nissan says "I'm happy with my Nissan, it pretty much does everything your benz does, I don't care if people look at my Nissan or not, and I like the woman in passenger seat just fine."
I can't cosign anybody being a bum, like I originally stated, but if the dude is working, saving his money, and helping out his family, and he's happy, as this board says "Let the man cook", he ain't hurtin' you. If anything, more p*ssy and respect for you right?
Most of the posts I've read of yours are mad level-headed, realistic, and logistic, so I don't get why you riled up about a parallel view to one of your positions. I ain't even disagreeing with you fam.
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For the poster who gawked at $30k/year salary, that is GARBAGE for a college graduate with a degree in the sciences. Like I posted before a LIBRARIAN makes nearly 50k a year in my city. An entry level accountant makes 45-55k, engineers make 60k fresh out of school. You can go drive a forklife and make 35k a year, and people offer 30k to a college grad?
I hate when people short themselves on compensation, it makes me so angry, because the people at the top bank of shorting the people at the bottom.