illmatic: lyrical masterpiece or fraud?

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What about the rest of that post? Do you have any criticisms that aren't just your opinion?

This is music its all opinion. The difference is I support my opinions with examples while naS stans stay sayin gay shyt and sayin "nuh uh 'i defeat foes' is the most lyrical ever"

:snoop:

so instead of me pointing out that the entire album is basura, why dont you show me the amazing lyrics. If I can find a garbage rapper with similar/equal lyrics then we agree naS is garbage lyrically.

Then we can do the same thing with Lupe in order to show the difference...
 

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This is music its all opinion. The difference is I support my opinions with examples while naS stans stay sayin gay shyt and sayin "nuh uh 'i defeat foes' is the most lyrical ever"

:snoop:

so instead of me pointing out that the entire album is basura, why dont you show me the amazing lyrics. If I can find a garbage rapper with similar/equal lyrics then we agree naS is garbage lyrically.

Then we can do the same thing with Lupe in order to show the difference...

Nope. It's your thread, your claim, your life's work. I want objective examples.
 

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no

you brought out the "my fo-fo make sure all yall kids dont grow"

I replied with "hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes"

it was a clever reply by ME. get it? "fo-fo", "foes"...

:snoop:

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Dog - I don't know how much more clearer you could make it for him. He's not gonna get it.
 

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Dog - I don't know how much more clearer you could make it for him. He's not gonna get it.

I really don't know what manner of troll I'm dealing with. but i think it's safe to assume troll when they start equating Waka Flocka and Birdman with Nas

there's plenty of reasonable arguments to be made. but they seem pointless when people say such silly things
 

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I really don't know what manner of troll I'm dealing with. but i think it's safe to assume troll when they start equating Waka Flocka and Birdman with Nas

there's plenty of reasonable arguments to be made. but they seem pointless when people say such silly things

Top notch trolling by IR. he may be the originator of the troll game. He keeps us coming back for more by saying something reasonable once ever 50 or so posts. Not too long ago he was saying Nas is the greatest storyteller of all time.
 

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I did. The whole album is garbage, its been exhibited. If you disagree show me where. I alreadly went through every single song and found nothing but ass.

Nope. that shyt was all opinion. I need objective examples. Not, this is trash. Or, this is just rambling. I need objective examples.

Where they at?
 

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Nope. that shyt was all opinion. I need objective examples. Not, this is trash. Or, this is just rambling. I need objective examples.

Where they at?

damn, you tryin to be this dumb or is it natural? If I was you I wouldnt take the offer either because I know that I can find any ol garbage rapper to duplicate the garbageness that is illmatic. And you also know that you cant find any old garbage rapper to duplicate what I pull up for Lupe...

You stay provin my point... I already showed the incoherent garbage that is illmatic, but like you said, naS fans are dumb as fukc and wouldnt recognize real lyricism.
 

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damn, you tryin to be this dumb or is it natural? If I was you I wouldnt take the offer either because I know that I can find any ol garbage rapper to duplicate the garbageness that is illmatic. And you also know that you cant find any old garbage rapper to duplicate what I pull up for Lupe...

You stay provin my point... I already showed the incoherent garbage that is illmatic, but like you said, naS fans are dumb as fukc and wouldnt recognize real lyricism.

It's natural. Effortless really. Makes me feel sad for you since I know you work really hard to be so dumb.

So you've got nothing huh?

It's like you said, music is mostly opinion. Based on that, and the fact that Illmatic is well established as one of the greatest albums of all time, your thread is a failure.

I see that you are misquoting me the same way you do with Nas to make a point. I'm flattered.
 

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You corny ass naS stans kill me...
Lets not talk about IR the gawd, lets talk about illmatic. Why dont you pull some amazing parts and we'll discuss that.

If this was IR.com we could discuss me

Where do you expect the conversation to go from here? There's no alternate version of Illmatic with different lyrics. You've heard the whole thing an opined on every bar. You don't like it. The overwhelming majority of fans either like it or at least acknowledge he was spitting on it.
 
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