illmatic: lyrical masterpiece or fraud?

[AAKing23]

I love how these fakkits who make these blasphemous threads always have their rep turned off I wonder why

 

[mobbinfms]

damn AZ murdered this nicca on Lifes A Bytch... but that hook is worse than anything on any Lupe album...

I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created

damn, this is gonna get tired soon. WTF is this nicca talkin about? I get it, but what the fukc is he sayin? Nothing. his physical frame is celebrated? this is just dumb.

Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
Don't go against the grain simple and plain

okay, the 1st bar is but this nicca follows it up with some more rambling "brain vein money maintain" just utter non-sense followed by another throw away.

When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash

Does this say "lyricist"? What does the last bar have to do with the previous ones? what does blunts with hash have to do with gettin ass? Words just to match.

Now it's all about cash in abundance, nikkaz I used to run with
is rich or doin years in the hundreds
I switched my motto -- instead of sayin fukk tomorrow
That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto

blah blah blah... even the line people love to quote is dumb as fukc. Basically sayin he coulda switched buyin liquor with gambling, and this is supposed to be knowledge? Smarten up naS.

Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
Pack a four-matic that crack your whole cabbage

What is "loose cracks"? how is time "illmatic"? WTF does that even mean? the rest of it, words just to match.

I hope you see a theme here. The best thing about this song is that its short as fukc and half of it is AZ who is a MUCH BETTER lyricist than naS. And my coffee is done maynes...

So basically - you don't understand metaphors and you don't care for descriptive imagery. You don't like your rap to be even slightly abstract. You like your rap to be extremely literal. You also like your rap to be very linear, I.e. verse one will clearly state it is about topic A and nothing other than topic A will be discussed.

Is that basically it?

 

[spliz]

hate now came after iww

nas changed his whole style after illmatic

Read what he wrote again...

 

[SubLyminalz]

ir the fukk out of yall

 

[spliz]

Also...the OP thinks Rakim wasnt a great lyricist...I guess the tons of people who feel he's one of if not the greatest is sheep too huh?.. ..he said Ra is just a storyteller..I cant believe people fell into this shyt..
IR u my nikka tho..lol..

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

true, liking nas doesnt make one a stan, but the following does:

“I’m out for dead *fukkin* presidents to represent me”

"your worst fear confirmed,
me and my fam roll tight like the firm"

“I from where nikkas pull your card, and argue all day about/Who’s the best MC’s, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas”

"A thing of beauty, watch me, body crazy
t*ts Firm like Nature, Foxy, Nas and AZ"

"It's like '93, '94, bout the year
That Big and Mack dropped and "Illmatic" rocked
Outta every rag drop"

"From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom
Drink army from one cup pass it around the room, That's the ritual (yup)"

"The Joneses can’t keep up
Maybe my nikka Nas
But I got Stronger after Ether (wow!)"

"I had the Illmatic on bootleg
The shyt was so ahead, thought we was all dead"

"Blueprint 2"

With Hawaiian Sophie fame kept my name in his music

 

[Insensitive]

Bunch a fvcking hypocrites in this thread.

Cats catch feelings in here while the Jay hate threads
stay with 4 and 5 stars.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Also...the OP thinks Rakim wasnt a great lyricist...I guess the tons of people who feel he's one of if not the greatest is sheep too huh?.. ..he said Ra is just a storyteller..I cant believe people fell into this shyt..
IR u my nikka tho..lol..

Ra wasnt a story teller but described his scene. I never did elaborate on that. Kinda different from naS ramblin on wit bullshyt. Puttin 7 emcees in a line isnt lyricism sorry.

 

[GeeEffKay]

so basically all op is doing is posting lyrics and sayin its trash or it doesnt make sense, like you cant do that with any album?

this shyt is the saddest display of exposing(or trying to) ive ever seen

 

[intilectual recipricol]

so basically all op is doing is posting lyrics and sayin its trash or it doesnt make sense, like you cant do that with any album?

this shyt is the saddest display of exposing(or trying to) ive ever seen

fakket, look at the lyrics... this is literally the absolute worst display of rapping for an entire album I have ever witnessed. Sure niccaz like Birdman are worse rappers than naS but I never listed to a whole Birdman album. This shyt it trash. Someone point me to some lyrical gems ANYWHERE in this album

 

[intilectual recipricol]

So basically - you don't understand metaphors and you don't care for descriptive imagery. You don't like your rap to be even slightly abstract. You like your rap to be extremely literal. You also like your rap to be very linear, I.e. verse one will clearly state it is about topic A and nothing other than topic A will be discussed.

Is that basically it?

this shyt aint abstract, its garbage. 3000 is abstract, Lupe is abstract... this is trash. None of it is on a topic except for the one decent song on the album... just a nicca ramblin on about nothin... which is okay if the rapper does it lyrically... naS aint doin that loc

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I love how these fakkits who make these blasphemous threads always have their rep turned off I wonder why

My rep aint turned off... you think you naS and biggie fakkets dont go in on my rep? Its just that its enough real niccaz on the site to counter a little bit of the fakketry displayed by your ilk

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

never seen a rapper get lyrically exposed by google search b4

 

[Barry Sanders]

Read what he wrote again...

i read it wrong but nas chose to go the "commercial" route

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

to me the fact that you spent all this time analysing nas' lyrics prove you secretly admire his style