I'll say it...kyrie is just as good or better than steph

[I AM WARHOL]

Kyrie might have the potential of being better than Steph but he's obviously not better than Steph right now

 

[onelastdeath]

Question is Steph at 22 or Ky at 22. They're not THAT far apart now, a 27 in prime Kyrie could be miles ahead of where Steph is now, especially if his stroke improves.

 

[42 Monks]

At 22 years old.

Irving
PER: 21.6
Offensive Rating: 118
Defensive Rating: 109
Usage: 25.7
Win Shares: 8.9
TS%: .58
Real Plus Minus: 8.85

Curry
PER: 19.4
Offensive Rating: 113
Defensive Rating: 112
Usage: 24.4
Win Shares: 6.6
TS%: .59
Real Plus Minus: -.20

Remember Tyreke Evans and Eric Gordon though?

Success isn't guaranteed

 

[jaguar paw]

Remember Tyreke Evans and Eric Gordon though?

Success isn't guaranteed

You right Kemba got next.

 

[42 Monks]

You right Kemba got next.

ease off the personal attacks cuz

 

[SCORCH]

I understand hmthat Kyrie is 22 but so what? He's not the type of player where I think he has infinite potential like an Andrew Wiggins or a Anthony Davis. When I hear "Well Kyrie is only 22" I can't help but roll my eyes. He just seems like a players who was more polished early on. I think his greatest improvement will come just by getting smarter but I don't really see him getting that much better at shooting and finishing because he's already so good at those skills. From a skills and even physical perspective KI's potential seems maxed out imo. Just needs to work on the mental aspect so he just doesn't end up never improving

This makes a great deal of sense.

 

[I.V.]

Age doesn't factor in?

In the conversation of "who is better"? No.

In the conversation of "who will be better"? Sure. If you're factoring in age, then you're having a different conversation than "Who is better?" Ya'dig? Kyrie is legitimately an atrocious defender. Most fans don't care about that in these conversations, but it needs to be factored in.


Again, if you want to talk about "who would you rather have on your team" then do that. But the title of this thread is "Who is better?" And the answer is Steph. There really isn't a valid argument.

 

[Kd35brah]

Those are full season stats.

Everything else you typed is your own personal belief.

The offense runs through LeBron. That's where he's comfortable and that's one of the many things he is best at.

He is the best player in the world.

Kyrie can definitely improve as a playmaker/passer. He's a natural skilled scorer. There is really no need to change how he plays on offense.

The only question they had going into the season was if he could play off the ball. He's proven he can this season.

Kyrie isn't done with his season....

Lebron publicly came out and said he doesn't want to run the offense full time, only reason he's doing it is because Kyrie is a poor floor general. Don't see how you can flip this any other way, we even saw how the team performed with him having PG duties, it wasn't exactly successful.

Curry was the best player on his team, scored the most for his team, and ran the entire offense for a 49 win team that went to the 2nd round.

I'm a fan of Kyrie, but he has never done that in his career. Not even close to it. The 1st time he's been out the lottery was when Lebron came back to lead the team, something Curry has never had.

 

[jaguar paw]

In the conversation of "who is better"? No.

In the conversation of "who will be better"? Sure. If you're factoring in age, then you're having a different conversation than "Who is better?" Ya'dig? Kyrie is legitimately an atrocious defender. Most fans don't care about that in these conversations, but it needs to be factored in.


Again, if you want to talk about "who would you rather have on your team" then do that. But the title of this thread is "Who is better?" And the answer is Steph. There really isn't a valid argument.

My posts in this thread have nothing to do with the thread title. Ya dig?

One is in his prime the other is approaching his in a few years.

 

[ThaGlow]

Kyrie had the performance of his life, but Chef Curry bout to get that MVP crown this year so....

 

[I.V.]

My posts in this thread have nothing to do with the thread title. Ya dig?

fukk do I care about your posts for? You want to make a new argument for a new conversation... make a new thread.

You quoted me -- and said "Age doesn't factor in?"

And I said no. Not here. Keep it moving.

 

[The War Report]

Remember Tyreke Evans and Eric Gordon though?

Success isn't guaranteed

You right Kemba got next.

ease off the personal attacks cuz

:huhldup2:

 

[CarltonJunior]

Question is Steph at 22 or Ky at 22. They're not THAT far apart now, a 27 in prime Kyrie could be miles ahead of where Steph is now, especially if his stroke improves.

Kyrie is better at 22 but Steph wasn't first option until Monta left so he held back and tried to play pure point almost the whole time. Steph is the better all-around player in my opinion but Kyrie is better offensively. You can't go wrong with either one but the way Steph plays the game is better and he plays winning basketball.

 

[LV Koopa]

I'll take Kyrie at 22 yrs old over Curry who turns 27 tomorrow

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Westbrook, Curry and CP3 are still the three best PGs in the game. Gonna take Kyrie a while before he can knock one of them out of their spot.