"If you trust me, you’ll get the vaccine," Morgan Freeman

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

This is a dumb hot take. This is the case with lockdowns and mask wearing in effect. Theres 331 million people in the US. By your logic, if everyone caught covid, over 5 million people would die. Thats alot. If it wasnt for social distancing and lockdowns then the numbers would be greater.

There's no evidence that lockdowns being all that effective.

There's been a couple of studies showing that lockdowns aren't effective:
Lockdowns Don’t Prevent Coronavirus Spread
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But this isnt about numbers. Its about how dangerously it spreads and hits people different. Thats why the vaccine is important to prevent this

Of course, it's about numbers (among other things). By analyzing the numbers and applying them then we can find how the Virus spreads, who's the most vulnerable and how to prevent more deaths.

 

[winb83]

Yet again, most people that get covid-19, recover from it. Many people are also asymptomatic.

So if you catch COVID and end up in the worst case scenario before they put you on that ventilator you're not gonna think back and go "damn I wish I got vaccinated" right? You're gonna think this is what I chose for myself and I'm ok with it because I'd rather die from this than have gotten vaccinated.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

That's true for almost every disease. I've never heard anyone say, "I don't care about catching malaria, most people recover from it" or "I don't think Dengue Fever is a big deal, most people recover from it".

FYI - fatality rate from dengue fever is less than 1%. Fatality rate from malaria is about 0.1%. And those are considered brutal, dangerous diseases that have extreme negative effects on entire populations.

The life expectancy of Black men in the USA dropped three years in 2020. That's fukking insane. How some of y'all want to talk like that's no big deal is senseless.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/lif...ican-males-dropped-by-3-years-in-2020.832676/

Such bad arguments. All you're doing is pivoting and strawmanning.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

So if you catch COVID and end up in the worst case scenario before they put you on that ventilator you're not gonna think back and go "damn I wish I got vaccinated" right? You're gonna think this is what I chose for myself and I'm ok with it because I'd rather die from this than have gotten vaccinated.

Don't know or care.

 

[Roid Jones]

 

[Bboystyle]

There's no evidence that lockdowns being all that effective.

There's been a couple of studies showing that lockdowns aren't effective:
Lockdowns Don’t Prevent Coronavirus Spread
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Of course, it's about numbers (among other things). By analyzing the numbers and applying them then we can find how the Virus spreads, who's the most vulnerable and how to prevent more deaths.

Another flawed article....


Lockdowns prevent people from large gatherings. Its not the faults of the people who put that order in effect that people are dumb enough not to follow protocol. Lockdowa dont work because people are stupid and dont follow. It worked fine in China where people had no choice.

 

[winb83]

Don't know or care.

You know. Like it or not by either your action or inaction you consent to the outcome either way.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

We know that's not the case with Covid. The newer strains spread more easily and some are more deadly. You can vaccinate people to slow down that threat, or you can continue letting it do its thing spreading across the world continually evolving. Doing the latter seems stupid and irresponsible if you have an alternative not to.

It's the case for every virus. You do realise that even though we have vaccines for many viruses, they still keep evolving? Flu. The common cold etc.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Another flawed article....


Lockdowns prevent people from large gatherings. Its not the faults of the people who put that order in effect that people are dumb enough not to follow protocol. Lockdowa dont work because people are stupid and dont follow. It worked fine in China where people had no choice.

It's not a flawed article. It's been peer reviewed and accepted. I'm sorry you don't like the outcome but to dismiss it because you don't like the results is the height of bad faith and egoticism.

 

[Bboystyle]

It's the case for every virus. You do realise that even though we have vaccines for many viruses, they still keep evolving? Flu. The common cold etc.

Those viruses arent as deadly or contagious as covid...those are seasonal viruses.. and since vaccines for flu are given out yearly, it helps keeping the contracter less sicker or even immune depending on how much it mutates from the prior year.

 

[Striving For Greatness]

Go on and do it EXPEDITIOUSLY!

 

[Bboystyle]

It's not a flawed article. It's been peer reviewed and accepted. I'm sorry you don't like the outcome but to dismiss it because you don't like the results is the height of bad faith and egoticism.

Nope. U telling me every American followed the lockdown protocol? Exactly. Its flawed.


But in China, where people dont have a choice, it worked. I wonder why

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Those viruses arent as deadly or contagiois as covid...those are seasonal viruses.. and since vaccines for flu are given out yearly, it helps keeping the contracter less sicker or even immune depending on how much it mutates from the prior year.

Depends which flu you're talking about. Ever way it doesn't matter, viruses keep evolving.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Such bad arguments. All you're doing is pivoting and strawmanning.

I'm pretty sure you don't understand what either of those two words mean, since I didn't do either of them.

Your claim had no value. I quoted your exact claim and showed why it had no value. If you have no argument in reply, that says more about you than me.

You've repeatedly said bullshyt, and when your bullshyt gets countered with facts you just cite maxims that literally no one ever uses for any other disease.

 

[MoneyTron]

It's the case for every virus. You do realise that even though we have vaccines for many viruses, they still keep evolving? Flu. The common cold etc.

The flu and common cold are not Covid.