"If you trust me, you’ll get the vaccine," Morgan Freeman

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The fukk are you talking about? :gucci:

They have reasons to fudge the numbers:hubie:.

So telling me about the high numbers means nothing. People have gon to one place and told they have it,then the next place says they don't.
How much do you trust the health care system.
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Like I said,you have melanin ,strong chance you would be okay if you take the vaccine unless its designed to kill you.But who knows what its fully designed for really. This here is a matter of principle and being precautious. People like me who aren't even indignant about people getting the vaccine,or defiant about people not taking it will still face hostility. This is the nature of the beast:wow:
 

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They have reasons to fudge the numbers:hubie:.

So telling me about the high numbers means nothing. People have gon to one place and told they have it,then the next place says they don't.
How much do you trust the health care system.
tenor.gif

Like I said,you have melanin ,strong chance you would be okay if you take the vaccine unless its designed to kill you.But who knows what its fully designed for really. This here is a matter of principle and being precautious. People like me who aren't even indignant about people getting the vaccine,or defiant about people not taking it will still face hostility. This is the nature of the beast:wow:
How do you people function in everyday life? :dead::heh:
 

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You do realise that even though we have vaccines for many viruses, they still keep evolving? Flu. The common cold etc.
There's a vaccine for the common cold?
Nope but not for the lack of trying.

Hmmm....so one moment you claim that viruses like the common cold keep evolving even though we have vaccines for them, then next moment you admit that we don't actually have a vaccine for the common cold. So were you lying or just uninformed?





And the reason the flu keeps evolving despite vaccines is because A. the vaccines aren't highly effective and B. not enough people take them.

That kills your entire argument, because the key to keep the virus from evolving is to have a critical mass of people take the vaccine and therefore stop viral reproduction.
A. Not true.
B. There's a finite amout of Flu vaccines. They are given to the most vulnerable. Thus most people can't take them.
What's not true about A? The flu vaccine is only about 67% effective, that's nowhere near enough to create herd immunity considering the low use rate and nowhere close to the 90+% effectiveness of the leading Covid-19 vaccines.

And for B, yes, most people can't take the flu vaccine. That's what I said. You don't seem to be following the argument.
 

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He posted a link that debunked his own claim. :russ:





Breh, you win for most original crazy theory of the thread, I hadn't heard anyone try to pass off that one. :deadrose:

Or the claim that hospitals are all building new wings with Covid money, as if hospitals haven't been way more fukked for cash during Covid, not rolling in it. :mjlol:

Really sick people whose immune systems have been weakened by disease often pick up additional opportunistic infections - germs floating around that usually don't harm our bodies, but become a problem when we're very sick. As you know, that's what AIDS patients all die from, yet we still consider them to have died from AIDS even though it's the "opportunistic infection" that deals the final blow in the end. But only a small minority of critically ill Covid-19 patients are actually catching Aspergillus too, somewhere between 10% and 25% depending on the sample, and only in a minority of those is there evidence that Aspergillus is helping to kill them. Of course, none of that would suggest, "Covid is really Aspergillus", just like no one says, "AIDS is really tuberculosis!" just because large #'s of AIDS patients end up dying from TB after AIDS has weakened their body.


I don't see how it debunked what I said other than by saying "Its true they do get incentives,but the hospitals SAID they need that:skip:". So I guess it comes down to whether or not you trust the healthcare system. Also as far as AIDS,people with malaria have been shown to have had false positive test for HIV. Just imagine the European told you that Africa was riddled with aids. When really those peoples bodies were struggling to fight an infection which can exhibit itself as AIDS

False-Positive Results of Enzyme Immunoassays for Human Immunodeficiency Virus in Patients with Uncomplicated Malaria


I have my opinion about aids too, which I've discussed here. But surely incentives wouldn't have made the European falsely identify infections as AIDS and degrade the image of Africa?

"To be on course to end AIDS as a public health threat by 2030, UNAIDS estimates that US$26.2 billion will be required for the global HIV response in 2020 alone. This means the world must increase the amount of resources available for HIV by US$1.5 billion each year between 2016 and 2020, a situation that is looking increasingly unlikely."

"bu bu but they need that...."

But thats another topic,if covid is spread an entirely different way then what they are saying that is relevant. You are assuming covid 19 is a real thing and opens people up to these aspergillius. I'm saying the aspergillius is doing what it does and attacking people with weakened immunity and protection. Just because you don't have a history of a weakened immune system,doesn't mean it isn't weak. For your other argument,how many people you actually believe are dying from "covid" is important. Saying only a small percentage of people are dying from aspergillus,when I don't believe the stats isn't helpful. If your like me and believe they have people dying from ventaliators,natural causes etc and they calling it covid I can't do anything with those "stats". But I salute your humbleness and lack of animosity:salute:.
 

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it's crazy that ppl have adopted calling other ppl "idiot anti-vaxxers" because they dont want to take this shyt. Like we dont have 10+ other vaccines we've already taken :mjlol: The media put the battery in the backs of mfs to ridicule others for a personal choice. I'm not vaccinated but i'm out here masked up and avoiding overcrowded spots for the foreseeable future so how am I not doing my part?
 
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