If you guys had to pick a more impactful artist - Janet or Whitney - who you picking?

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Not one thing I said in here was wrong.

The whole point of my argument was Whitney fell in line with Janet’s influence. Whitney got a lot of flack for being too pop/commercialized. That is a fact, bruh. When she started doing new jack swing as an effort to toughen her image up, she took a page from Janet’s book, who had done two new jack swing sounding albums prior to Whitney doing it. That is also a fact.

Where exactly am I wrong?


I'm not going in circles with you.

and you keep pushing this dumb chit, like whitney being influenced by janet.
and janet being a pioneer of new jack swing.

I'm done.
 

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More influential? Janet, easy.

:whoa: now, I'll admit Whitney got the bigger big hits and one of the GOAT voices,

But Janet damn near the blueprint for the female urban song and dance act.

It's prolly not a coincidence Whitney dropped an album with more of an.... "edge" in 1990 after Rhythm Nation dropped the year before.

And yeah, it's true Whitney went on to become a MEGA mega star when The Bodyguard dropped, her style of music was more her lane.

Janet's style of music and showmanship changed the game and almost singlehandedly created a lane that may be almost 1 lane at this point, but folks still driving on it.

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It's prolly not a coincidence Whitney dropped an album with more of an.... "edge" in 1990 after Rhythm Nation dropped the year before.

And yeah, it's true Whitney went on to become a MEGA mega star when The Bodyguard dropped, her style of music was more her lane.


whitney been a MEGA mega star since the first album breh.

as for the bolded - youre ignoring the fact that whitney was dating the edgiest singer in all of r&b at the time in bobby brown.:whistle: he also kicked janet to the curb and literally out of his bed.

crediting janet for the direction of that whitney album is an extremely lazy observation.
the landscape of r&b PERIOD became edgier during this time thanks to new jack swing, the influence of hip-hop and yea, the main face of it was bobby brown. plus, whitney had to quiet her critics. clive had these cards in the deck already.

btw, @ghetto dreams, rhythm nation is when janet hopped on the new jack swing wave. she was no pioneer.
 
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So most of the people in here say Janet is more impactful and more influential. :sas2:

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typical coli revisionism.
janet Jackson more impactful than whitney Houston?

I knew this thread was gonna b chit when OP tried to set an age requirement and he set it for being born by '91, as if the bulk of whitney & Janet's respective peaks didn't occur in the '80s.
 

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typical coli revisionism.
janet Jackson more impactful than whitney Houston?

I knew this thread was gonna b chit when OP tried to set an age requirement and he set it for being born by '91, as if the bulk of whitney & Janet's respective peaks didn't occur in the '80s.

How does it feel to be on the losing end of the argument? How does it feel knowing that most of the people in this thread agree that Janet supersedes Whitney?

You gonna be watching The Queen getting honored tonight? Perched right in front of of ya tv, breh?
 

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How does it feel to be on the losing end of the argument? How does it feel knowing that most of the people in this thread agree that Janet supersedes Whitney?

You gonna be watching The Queen getting honored tonight? Perched right in front of of ya tv, breh?


this thread is about who is the most impactful. not who u think supercedes whoever.

I didn't lose any argument. anybody who thinks janet was even remotely as impactful as whitney Houston, simply doesn't know what theyre talking about. just because of number of misinformed people pile up in one thread, it doesn't mean that theyre correct.

besides, people speaking in favor of janet are mostly saying shes more influential or they prefer her music. only a few people came out and said that janet was more impactful.

and nah, I'm not into white award shows.:laugh: i'll be watching 'saints & sinners', Unsung & the playoffs.

I'm still laughing at you thinking janet was a new jack swing pioneer.:laff:
 

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this thread is about who is the most impactful. not who u think supercedes whoever.

I didn't lose any argument. anybody who thinks janet was even remotely as impactful as whitney Houston, simply doesn't know what theyre talking about. just because of number of misinformed people pile up in one thread, it doesn't mean that theyre correct.

besides, people speaking in favor of janet are mostly saying shes more influential or they prefer her music. only a few people came out and said that janet was more impactful.

and nah, I'm not into white award shows.:laugh: i'll be watching 'saints & sinners', Unsung & the playoffs.

I'm still laughing at you thinking janet was a new jack swing pioneer.:laff:

Of course, semantics. The question said - who is more impactful. In case you didn’t read the thread, most of the responses in here have said Janet. :sas2:

I’m not doing this new jack swing argument again. Two people, including myself, have negated your futile point. I’ve posted articles and inserts directly from the industry that have said it. You are by yourself and nobody agrees with you that Janet wasn’t a new jack swing pioneer.

You’re on the losing team. And you need to get with the winning team.

Janet >>> Whitney. Always and forever. And there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
 

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Of course, semantics. The question said - who is more impactful. In case you didn’t read the thread, most of the responses in here have said Janet. :sas2:

I’m not doing this new jack swing argument again. Two people, including myself, have negated your futile point. I’ve posted articles and inserts directly from the industry that have said it. You are by yourself and nobody agrees with you that Janet wasn’t a new jack swing pioneer.

You’re on the losing team. And you need to get with the winning team.

Janet >>> Whitney. Always and forever. And there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.


lol @ this stan chit in the bolded. get a real life.
and like I said, I don't even like Whitney's music. you tryna pull me in some stan wars when I really could care less about either artist, and I prefer to listen to janet over whitney. I'm just not down with all this circle-jerk revising of history that goes on here nowadays. and I made this pretty dam clear like three times already.

dude that agreed with you, didn't really know what new jack swing was either. and he was smart enough to fallback.

yes. IMPACT. stick to the topic. most people are just saying "I prefer janet" or "she influenced the dance singers". very few people have actually said she had more impact.

lol @ "get with the winning team". I'm not into this new era internet sheep mentality. especially when most of the sheep weren't even alive when chit was going down.

this is one of the reasons why I rarely check the booth for threads anymore.
 

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I prefer Janet myself. I was bumping Velvet Rope yesterday and she has more hits.


they had about the same amount of hits with janet dropping more attempts at hit singles & having more misses.

and beyond all that, whitney would sell more than twice as much as Janet's top-sellers.
 

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lol @ this stan chit in the bolded. get a real life.
and like I said, I don't even like Whitney's music. you tryna pull me in some stan wars when I really could care less about either artist, and I prefer to listen to janet over whitney. I'm just not down with all this circle-jerk revising of history that goes on here nowadays. and I made this pretty dam clear like three times already.

dude that agreed with you, didn't really know what new jack swing was either. and he was smart enough to fallback.

yes. IMPACT. stick to the topic. most people are just saying "I prefer janet" or "she influenced the dance singers". very few people have actually said she had more impact.

lol @ "get with the winning team". I'm not into this new era internet sheep mentality. especially when most of the sheep weren't even alive when chit was going down.

this is one of the reasons why I rarely check the booth for threads anymore.

Typical stubborn nikka. Just can’t admit when you’re wrong. Instead of just being man enough and going “you know what? You right”, u wanna argue me down. :francis::mjlol:

It’s all good, breh. Just make sure you tune in tonight to watch The Queen.

they had about the same amount of hits with janet dropping more attempts at hit singles & having more misses.

and beyond all that, whitney would sell more than twice as much as Janet's top-sellers.

:snoop::what::mjlol:
 
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