Whips-n-Chains
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Hov's Art collection vs. Nas'
If you condense ‘Reasonable Doubt’ down to an ‘Illmatic’ size track list … what tracks would you take off and would it be better than Illmatic?
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Whips-n-Chains
Chi
*bumps Life's a bytch then ya die at a funeral*
2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat
f*** apologies, i wanna see y’all geeked up
i forgot that was on there
well To Live & Die In LA goes crazy anywhere
“let my angel sing”
Illmatic didn't go plat til 2001. 2Pac second album went plat in 1995. I get around and keep yah head up were ringing off everywhere, I was 8 and 9
This is the level of discussion we deserve for engaging with this topic.
BmoreGorilla
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This is one of the nit pickiest threads I done seen in a minutes
The thought of anything from Illmatic being played at a wedding is wild
BmoreGorilla
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The bride and groom having their first dance to One Love
I think it hurts Hov stans that during the Golden Era of hip hop 1988-1996… the era of Pac, Biggie, Wu, Rakim, Kane, KRS, Cube, Snoop, Bad Boy, NWA, Fugees, Bootcamp, Nas etc
Hov was irrelevant
Hov was irrelevant
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
I think it hurts Hov stans that during the Golden Era of hip hop 1988-1996… the era of Pac, Biggie, Wu, Rakim, Kane, KRS, Cube, Snoop, Bad Boy, NWA, Fugees, Bootcamp, Nas etc
Hov was irrelevant
That’s a big part of it. Jay-Z lacked the charisma of Pac & Big…he didn’t have underground audience to cross over to the skater crowd like Wu…so he followed the diddy mold by aiming at the pop crossover crowd.
Hov at his peak popularity also coincided with an overall decline in hip hop…the late 90s move away from samples, the early 2000s digital trash beat era, trash ass Swizz Beatz, everyone trying to have a southern bounce to their music. All the garbage timbo and Neptunes bears that aged like milk.
It’s not Hov’s fault by any means but my god that era of hip hop production was so fukking bad.
A straight up missing episode of AtlantaThis is one of the nit pickiest threads I done seen in a minutes
The thought of anything from Illmatic being played at a wedding is wild
EPS Plus
Rookie
Came in here to say this - the Prodigy sample works perfect.
Just off the top of my head no, although one time 4 ya mind does make the argument closer
Can't Knock The Hustle
Politics As Usual
Brooklyn's Finest
Dead Presidents
Feelin It
D'Evils
22 Twos
Can I Live
Regrets
Illmatic just has untouchable highs is the problem
NY State of Mind
The World is Yours
Memory Lane
Those 3 would go somewhere in my top 30 rap songs ever
Can't Knock The Hustle
Politics As Usual
Brooklyn's Finest
Dead Presidents
Feelin It
D'Evils
22 Twos
Can I Live
Regrets
Illmatic just has untouchable highs is the problem
NY State of Mind
The World is Yours
Memory Lane
Those 3 would go somewhere in my top 30 rap songs ever
SteelCitySoldier
TSC Fantasy Football Champion 2016
shyt been better than Illmatic and IMO it ain’t close
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Nas was born in ‘73. He was in his age 19 year when the recording began.Oh my god he was 18 not 17
Everybody stop the presses.
BTW Live at the BBQ was 1991. So yes, Nas was a teen when he broke through and Jay was much older when he finally made noise.
"Let both bodies of work and artist stand for their selves" doesn't mean scrapping context around the albums but the complete opposite which @Whips-n-Chains has explained well through out this thread.
U tried to pass off him being 17
when Illmatic dropped while putting Jay down as 26It’s well known Nas got it popping younger and Jay was an older man relatively speaking when he blew you don’t gotta lie and exaggerate to kick it though
Nas was born in ‘73. He was in his age 19 year when the recording began.
U tried to pass off him being 17
It’s well known Nas got it popping younger and Jay was an older man relatively speaking when he blew you don’t gotta lie and exaggerate to kick it though
1973 -1991 =
I never put down Jay for blowing up at an older age. This is all beyond the point and just a deflection especially since you did all that just to agree.