if you are down with capitalism you are down with slavery

[Blackking]

Capitalism is both a mindset and a economic system. The mindset is rooted in manipulation and the manipulation is that in order for capitalism to work the wealth is generated by exploiting people local and foreign and by using them in production and consumerism with them gaining little in return. The manipulation is continued by leading the masses of them to believe that they are benefiting from their own exploitation. 1% of the population controlling the vast majority of the wealth Should be enough said on the subject - But the fact that its not clearly shows how the mindset is rooted in manipulation.

"People will defend the person raping them and even moan a little to help them the get the nut off better. "

- - blackking

politics ties in because the money controls the politics and the government assist the largest corps in increasing the manipulations.

We have to learn how to manipulate the manipulation... no one will ever take their boot off your chest if it feeds their people and increases their pockets, ego, and power.

-blackking

I could be wrong though. I do agree with this too

Socialism is not a magic wand: wave it and everything changes.

- assata shakur

 

[theworldismine13]

So I'm still waiting, what is this social system that you guys are suggesting we replace capitalism with?

 

[MostReal]

Capitalism creates greed

While it is a by product, Greed will destroy capitalism. Greed is a side effect that must be controlled for the process to work correctly. It will destroy the nation unchecked...that is the route we are headed on

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Capitalism creates greed

This is some seventh grade shyt

Capitalism is a double edged sword, always has been. In real time I'll take it over any execution of Communism or Feudalism though, and you're kidding yourself if you wouldnt...

 

[Blackking]

So I'm still waiting, what is this social system that you guys are suggesting we replace capitalism with?

on sohh it was already stated that Socialist market economy is better. Also was stated that any pure system of capitalism and communism is flawed and only subscribed to if the intent is to exploit the masses of a population. duh.

 

[theworldismine13]

on sohh it was already stated that Socialist market economy is better. Also was stated that any pure system of capitalism and communism is flawed and only subscribed to if the intent is to exploit the masses of a population. duh.

A social market economy is an economy that is based on capitalism and a free market, so a social market economy is based on slavery? No?

 

[Kritic]

i agree with this. i own a business.

 

[Type Username Here]

Capitalism requires consumers to exist.

OK

By definition, slave societies lack consumers,

Really? Source?

therefor making slavery as an institution detrimental to capitalism.

It's just a more primitive concept but not fully detrimental. The kids we have working in sweatshops or in places like FoxConn are borderline slaves, yet their cheap labor allows these companies to make more money and profit more. Granted, it's more ideal for the wealthy to move from a form of plantation slavery to debt slavery. Debt slaves are the ideal slaves.

Industrialization can take place in societies which relies on servitude. Stalin's 5-year plans, and record breaking industrial growth as an example can suffice.

I said that above.

 

[Type Username Here]

What is this other system that allows property and business ownership ?

There are plenty of Socialist-Capitalist hybrids that allow this to foster. These countries have very small wealth gaps and much better movement between social/economic classes than the US.

 

[theworldismine13]

There are plenty of Socialist-Capitalist hybrids that allow this to foster. These countries have very small wealth gaps and much better movement between social/economic classes than the US.

Yeah but capitalism is slavery, so a social capitalist hybrid is combining social programs with slavery, isn't it? So you want a system with happy slaves with free healthcare?

 

[Shogun]

OK



Really? Source?




It's just a more primitive concept but not fully detrimental. The kids we have working in sweatshops or in places like FoxConn are borderline slaves, yet their cheap labor allows these companies to make more money and profit more. Granted, it's more ideal for the wealthy to move from a form of plantation slavery to debt slavery. Debt slaves are the ideal slaves.



I said that above.

I suppose I disagree with using the term "slave" as loosely as you are to make your point.

 

[Type Username Here]

A social market economy is an economy that is based on capitalism and a free market, so a social market economy is based on slavery? No?

Yes, I like the system where the people are as close to free as possible, even if they still engage in debt slavery. These hybrid economies are a great step forward and they are vastly more successful.

 

[Blackking]

A social market economy is an economy that is based on capitalism and a free market, so a social market economy is based on slavery? No?

Not based on slavery because it's not based on capitalism.... it's literally based on revolutionary socialist movements... and the market practices are a variation of capitalistic ideas- to encourage growth and ownership and innovation. Not all capital assets are privately owned and prompted up and pushed solely for profit- so ideally the need for exploitation and slavery wouldn't be as prevalent. Of course we are human beings and are aware of human nature. But point is.... to put it in a retarded and simplistic way; capitalism is slavery and there are other forms of economies that allow property and business ownership.

 

[theworldismine13]

Not based on slavery because it's not based on capitalism.... it's literally based on revolutionary socialist movements... and the market practices are a variation of capitalistic ideas- to encourage growth and ownership and innovation. Not all capital assets are privately owned and prompted up and pushed solely for profit- so ideally the need for exploitation and slavery wouldn't be as prevalent. Of course we are human beings and are aware of human nature. But point is.... to put it in a retarded and simplistic way; capitalism is slavery and there are other forms of economies that allow property and business ownership.

oh you mean like cuba and venezuela, that is what you think the US economy should be like?

 

[theworldismine13]

Yes, I like the system where the people are as close to free as possible, even if they still engage in debt slavery. These hybrid economies are a great step forward and they are vastly more successful.

yeah i agree, that a system based on capitalism is best, that is my point

any system that is not based on capitalism is doomed and will implode and will be overrun by capitalist eventually