If white people hated blaccs like Malcolm X and wanted blac leaders like MLK..

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The Farrakhan angle is very interesting, he essentially admitted that he played a role in Malcolm's assassination. There are times that I feel Farrakhan has had dealings with the feds. I hope I'm wrong, but the fact that he's sitting in Chicago and isn't making national news in terms of dealing with the violence is disheartening because he was and maybe still is the most powerful Black voice in terms of Black issues.
How is Farrakhan gonna make national news though? He's been shut out by Jewish media and Black people diss him because white people tell them to. There isn't a leader on this planet who has done more for Black folks than Farrakhan but even Black folk are too busy shytting on him and accusing him of being an "agent" because he's still alive, which is really just an example of Black inferiority complex. Black people in general don't think other Black people can do anything great without whites holding their hands, it's just a slave mentality.
 

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This is how I see it. MLK was extremely influential and achieved real impact and change while Malcolm (with all due respect) was the equivalent of today's version of SJW, all bark and no bite. I'm not impressed with political justice leaders who all they do is talk,debate, tweet etc, at best I admire their bravery and effort but that's it.

Say what you want about MLK but he delivered civil rights victory for black people. that's real substance,tangible and impact right there.
shouting fukk cacs, black empowerment this and that is meaningless if it doesn't bring about real policy change/tangible result and improve the situation of things for afro-centric minorities in general.
The closest we had to an influential black "leader" since MLK was Obama and even he didn't accomplish shyt for black people.

In summary MLK > Malcolm and it's not even close.
 

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How is Farrakhan gonna make national news though? He's been shut out by Jewish media and Black people diss him because white people tell them to. There isn't a leader on this planet who has done more for Black folks than Farrakhan but even Black folk are too busy shytting on him and accusing him of being an "agent" because he's still alive, which is really just an example of Black inferiority complex. Black people in general don't think other Black people can do anything great without whites holding their hands, it's just a slave mentality.
Point is, he used to have a national platform. He gave Mike Wallace that fade on 60 minutes years ago. He used to be on mainstream media outlets. CSPAN used to show his annual Saviors Day. But I agree with you that he's been cut off from the reaching the masses. I wouldn't refer to him as an agent, but I do think he's been visited by feds, and he may have agents within the NOI that are keeping tabs from a distance.

Doing some research on Marcus Garvey and MLK and Malcolm, I don't think Farrakhan's resume is as strong as theirs. I could be wrong, but Garvey had ships ready to take Black people to Africa. Govt. shut him down though. But if you're talking currently living Black leaders, then you're absolutely correct.
 

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Point is, he used to have a national platform. He gave Mike Wallace that fade on 60 minutes years ago. He used to be on mainstream media outlets. CSPAN used to show his annual Saviors Day. But I agree with you that he's been cut off from the reaching the masses. I wouldn't refer to him as an agent, but I do think he's been visited by feds, and he may have agents within the NOI that are keeping tabs from a distance.

Doing some research on Marcus Garvey and MLK and Malcolm, I don't think Farrakhan's resume is as strong as theirs. I could be wrong, but Garvey had ships ready to take Black people to Africa. Govt. shut him down though. But if you're talking currently living Black leaders, then you're absolutely correct.
Yeah I meant those who were alive. I think Farrakhan has actually done more than Malcolm but Malcolm's legacy will always shine greater. Malcolm never actually really led the NOI, he was just a spokesperson (I use the word "just" cautiously and not as an insult)
 

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This is how I see it. MLK was extremely influential and achieved real impact and change while Malcolm (with all due respect) was the equivalent of today's version of SJW, all bark and no bite. I'm not impressed with political justice leaders who all they do is talk,debate, tweet etc, at best I admire their bravery and effort but that's it.

Say what you want about
MLK but he delivered civil rights victory for black people. that's real substance,tangible and impact right there.
shouting fukk cacs, black empowerment this and that is meaningless if it doesn't bring about real policy change/tangible result and improve the situation of things for afro-centric minorities in general.
The closest we had to an influential black "leader" since MLK was Obama and even he didn't accomplish shyt for black people.

In summary MLK > Malcolm and it's not even close.

If thats true why are black folks still fighting for civil rights in 2017? :jbhmm:Why are blacks still getting their civil rights violated on a daily bases with no justice?:jbhmm:

That ain't no victory :yeshrug:i


Victory: an act of defeating an enemy or opponent in a battle, game, or other competition..
 

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Yeah I meant those who were alive. I think Farrakhan has actually done more than Malcolm but Malcolm's legacy will always shine greater. Malcolm never actually really led the NOI, he was just a spokesperson (I use the word "just" cautiously and not as an insult)
But do you think Malcolm wasn't allowed because the Hon. Elijah Muhammad wasn't going to give up his power to someone like Malcolm? I know Malcolm left the NOI in the mid 60's because of the disagreements they had. I think if they didn't have that rift, then Malcolm's impact would've been even greater.

Sidenote: I was surprised to learn that the Hon. Elijah Muhammad met with Klan members and even had a Klan member speak at one of the NOI's functions.
 

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But do you think Malcolm wasn't allowed because the Hon. Elijah Muhammad wasn't going to give up his power to someone like Malcolm? I know Malcolm left the NOI in the mid 60's because of the disagreements they had. I think if they didn't have that rift, then Malcolm's impact would've been even greater.

Sidenote: I was surprised to learn that the Hon. Elijah Muhammad met with Klan members and even had a Klan member speak at one of the NOI's functions.
Nah. I don't think Elijah ever had plans for Malcolm to hold the power, he just believed in his oratory skills and charisma. It's not even like Malcolm ever even tried to take power or was really bringing in his own viewpoints, he really was just saying what Elijah told him to do. Same token, I don't think Elijah had plans for Farrakhan to be what he is now either. It was always supposed to be his son. I think if there's never a rift things just continue how they had been going. Elijah was the real leader, not Malcolm (again, not an insult)

Farrakhan had the benefit of living for decades after Malcolm died though. There's just no way to make up the time if we're making a comparison. Also important to note, none of these cats were in competition ideologically, they all had the same goal, we just compare them in retrospect from the outside.
 

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..then why did white people kill MLk while Malcolm X was killed by his own?
They were both killed by the Feds breh..........blacks hands might have held the guns, but white batteries were put into the backs of the men involved.

i mean the most fugged up part about el-Hajj el- Malik Shabazz bka Malcolm X, was they cut him down, right in front of his pregnant wife, and his little daughters.... can you imagine the trauma they went to, seeing their own father murked in front of them...
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i'm well aware...just want to see how Farrakhan stans play both sides.
Farrakhan, jessie jackson, al shaprton :beli::comeon:
are all double agents, why you think they are allowed to live....
I know Farrakhan rips these devils,,, but come on... if he was a threat, they would've murked him long ago.
any black man who pose a threat, to really awaken their people, and stir the pot,,, they outta hear,, MLK, Malcolm, Patrice Lumumba, i can go on.
and Farrakhan recently sold out his nation, to Scientology... I wish I was lying...

Farrakhan has some secret pact with the KKK years back, and now he wants to merge NOI with Scientology a religion, started, by racist ass L Ron Hubbard?:what:
 

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Malcolm X was the real deal. That's why he's more respected worldwide on a genuine level than MLK
 

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MLK was a pawn who was discarded of once he outlived his usefulfulness and started freelancing.

Cacs also tried to kill Al Sharpton :whistle:

And Black Lives Matter is damn there ISIS status as far as perception amongst the "make america great again" type cacs (members have been run over with cars and SHOT by cacs)

Based on this line of thinking...Sharpton + the movement these dykes created

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As well as this fakkit

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Represent a substantial threat in destroying systemic white supremacy...which is why cacs react to Sharpton & BLM with such over the top hyperbole & propaganda as well as occassional violence...right?
 
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