If Omega leaves NJPW did Gedo play himself?

[Jmare007]

Not really. Gedo's done a better job at establishing gaijin than japanese wrestlers, even if White flops as the next main foreigner, they have other people than can take that spot and still do well with it.

New Japan will lose a big draw in Omega but right now the company is more than fine with their core audience and it's still growing. And they still have other big draws in Okada, Ibushi, Naito and Tanahashi. Gedo's main mission right now is finding ways to not let those 4 lose their drawing power and start transitioning to younger guys getting chances to prove themselves.

The fact that fukking Jay White is getting an Osaka main event IWGP title match and Sanada is still fukking around in the tag division is something that shouldn't be happening. But oh well, it took him 4 years to give Ishii a big title match main event, the lazy fukker is always a couple of years late to everything

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Yeah Ospreay would be better than White in the main event imo....if he doesn't cripple himself first

Yeah Osperay came off as more of a heel in one night than Jay White has in an entire year. That elbow he did to Ibushi and the stretcher job after was better that the entire Switchblade gimmick this far

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Not really. Gedo's done a better job at establishing gaijin than japanese wrestlers, even if White flops as the next main foreigner, they have other people than can take that spot and still do well with it.

New Japan will lose a big draw in Omega but right now the company is more than fine with their core audience and it's still growing. And they still have other big draws in Okada, Ibushi, Naito and Tanahashi. Gedo's main mission right now is finding ways to not let those 4 lose their drawing power and start transitioning to younger guys getting chances to prove themselves.

The fact that fukking Jay White is getting an Osaka main event IWGP title match and Sanada is still fukking around in the tag division is something that shouldn't be happening. But oh well, it took him 4 years to give Ishii a big title match main event, the lazy fukker is always a couple of years late to everything

BREH. The Sanada thing is SO confusing as he has done next to nothing and still shown more upside than White. I hated his excursion time with TNA but ever since the Cold skull thing I wanted him to have a chance. Then again I guess it's better than having him get the Goto treatment?

 

[23Barrettcity]

I can't lie though this new Switchblade t-shirt is fire

Hmmm what does that shirt have to do with bullet club though

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Hmmm what does that shirt have to do with bullet club though

Nothing.

It's meant to be a shot at Okada.

 

[MightyHealthy]

People used to hate on Okada and call him a dork...imagine comparing Jay White's Tokyo Dome performance #6 to #2.

 

[DaylitoJames]

Yeah Osperay came off as more of a heel in one night than Jay White has in an entire year. That elbow he did to Ibushi and the stretcher job after was better that the entire Switchblade gimmick this far

"Skyblade" Ospreay?

 

[Jmare007]

People used to hate on Okada and call him a dork...imagine comparing Jay White's Tokyo Dome performance #6 to #2.

GTFOH

Okada was beloved as a young lion. Then he had 1 shytty match at the Dome...then he won everyone over 1 month later.

Comparing White to Okada is apples to oranges, just don't.

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

Ospreay could be a huge star for NJPW. I like Jay and think he's good in the ring, but he doesn't stand out for any reason yet. Ospreay does. WWE will probably snatch him up in 2020. New Japan needs to start doing longer contracts. I know they have for some, but it doesn't seem standard.

 

[Yade]

He did it for the United States market. If NJPW keeps growing here then it’s worth it. Will they even do 6k here again post MSG with no Elite? We definitely will find out

It’s suoer likely not

 

[XannyWarbucks]

Omega wouldn't take anything but a one-year, that's why Gedo started booking White and Juice. People talk shyt about White, but when Kenny first got his spot, he was always looked at as a "Wacky" guy. Like people were laughing when Kenny was herald as AJ's replacement, and it turned out even better than AJ's run.
NJPW lost 2 main eventers in 2016 and made even more money by doing something WWE doesn't do-- push new stars in Kenny and Naito. Plus, Okada really came on his own from that point.
All I'm saying is that I trust Gedo's talent in finding stars and booking them accordingly. If they make White into something big, he's booker of the decade.

 

[TheGodling]

Omega wouldn't take anything but a one-year, that's why Gedo started booking White and Juice. People talk shyt about White, but when Kenny first got his spot, he was always looked at as a "Wacky" guy. Like people were laughing when Kenny was herald as AJ's replacement, and it turned out even better than AJ's run.
NJPW lost 2 main eventers in 2016 and made even more money by doing something WWE doesn't do-- push new stars in Kenny and Naito. Plus, Okada really came on his own from that point.
All I'm saying is that I trust Gedo's talent in finding stars and booking them accordingly. If they make White into something big, he's booker of the decade.

Hold up breh, what alternate universe are you visiting from?

 

[XannyWarbucks]

Omega played himself.
Not sure how you nikkaz giving him a passes for palumbo'n the promotion. Along with roh doing the same with castle. Then thinking it will be this great venture into the us. With a children based product at its core. You can not create a draw based on good/evil. Coupled with fighting spirit.
Then market gay shyt as the champion hero of the promotion.
Not to mention, by being to Asian oriented. When they needed to be global and nonsensically make Okada as the greatest thing. When omega should have went over on the first actual encounter between the two.
That we should never have had to re-rate the star system. now after you re-rated the star system because wrasslin was still shackled by the ghost of Benoit. Being the actual best five star finish in wrasslin history with the super tombstone finish versus black tiger.
So, granted the rating system had to be re-rated over. Yet you can not authenicate re-rating a system because the old system was shackled by a murderer. Then re-shackle the rating system.
behind a dude with a ambiguously gay duo based gimmick.

It is silly and oxymoronic.

That is why omega had to drop the strap quickly and had very little permeation. into the domestic mainstream gateway market as well. So that is why Kenny lost the title. Yet njpw ruined the drawing cycle of omega. by trying to make Okada this thing. Plus allowing in the meantime omega to emasculate the entire promotion and its permeation into the domestic market. Before omega would garner the highest place on the card and draw as champ.

Art Barr

I disagree. Kenny should have never won the first encounter. Okada was absolutely the guy they should've focused on because even though they focused on expanding, they also expanded domestically. Okada, by all metrics, is the biggest star they had and they actually made Kenny a bigger star by having him be the one who beat him. Okada vs Naito was seen as a bigger match than Kenny vs Okada 2-- which is why they let them go at Dominion instead of WK 12. The problem(s) with Kenny wasn't marketing "Golden Lovers" it was the mess that was the BC vs The Elite feud. While I'm glad that those guys managed to I guess, make a new promotion or have a new stake, part of the reason I was happy for them was that they were going to fukk off and leave Kenny alone. The Golden Lovers storyline was really well-done, but you could tell that they knew Kenny was the meal-ticket so they inexplicably teamed right back up with him. It doesn't help that Cody is NOT A DRAW in Japan at all. He gets 0 reactions from the crowd, I've seen him get it from ROH, but it doesn't translate to Japan. Despite this, he somehow managed to get not 1 but 2 title shots. This is what really fukked Kenny over, because most people saw his reign as him just getting the same tired "Elite" storyline over. Gedo probably let them do this in hopes of buttering Kenny up, because you know any other promotion would've told him to fukk off with this Cody shyt that clearly isn't over to anyone but the people who watch a Youtube show.

I still think Kenny vs Ibushi is a huge match and one worth inticing Kenny to stay. They're two Tokyo Dome shows to sell next year, and I think Okada/Naito and Kenny/Ibushi are the two biggest matches they have.

 

[XannyWarbucks]

Hold up breh, what alternate universe are you visiting from?

In what world did Kenny's run not eclipse Aj's run? He went from Jr. Heavyweight to Heavyweight and managed to get a Tokyo Dome Main Event. AJ never had that. He was always positioned at the top but never how Kenny was. Kenny was main eventing shows with a useless belt.

 

[TheGodling]

In what world did Kenny's run not eclipse Aj's run? He went from Jr. Heavyweight to Heavyweight and managed to get a Tokyo Dome Main Event. AJ never had that. He was always positioned at the top but never how Kenny was. Kenny was main eventing shows with a useless belt.

AJ Styles was in NJPW like two years less than Omega and had two IWGP Heavyweight title reigns on top of making the Bullet Club a household name. Without AJ's run Omega wouldn't even be in that position, plus in his absence he benefited the most from NJPW starting to do US shows and focusing more on American expansion. You can put an asterisk on half his NJPW run because first and foremost he just happened to be at the right place at the right time.