If OKC doesn’t make the finals, do you think they will get a pass from the media/fans?

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Youth should not be an excuse. SGA is 4 months younger than Tatum and 7 months older than Luka and neither of those guys would be given a pass for not getting it done with that supporting cast.
Okc is youngest team in the league. Celtics is filled with vets average age is almost 27. Young teams don't traditionally win
 
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Will the “they are a bunch of kids” standard still apply even though they(and their best player)are playing historically great basketball right now and were the one seed last year already?
I think they MIGHT get a pass but it'll depend a lot on who keeps them out of the Finals.

Anyone that watches the NBA knows OKC is legit. Question is.....have the casuals and NBA media caught up enough to raise their expectations on SGA and 'em?

My guess is next season will be the start of heightened expectations.
 

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I'm not being semantical about anything, you're whining because Tatum got flack for poor play in his first Finals and you're looking to keep the cycle going.

We're discussing them as a serious contenders because they are. They are also the first where you're hard-pressed to find team members before before Biggie died. They're a historic anomaly so there's no cookie cutter narrative to assign to them.

Where am I whining? I made literally one post, that you decided to engage with on your own accord.

Also I’m not looking for a narrative. They’re a really fukking great team regardless of how young or old they are, therefore I have high expectations for them. I don’t think there’s a single team in the West that’s even arguably better than them.

I said exactly why I would view it as a disappointment if they don’t get to the Finals. They’re on pace for 68 wins (Which would tie for top 5 all time), they have the likely MVP, they have an all-star 2nd option, an elite C rotation, high quality role players, the #1 defense and the reigning COY. Hell we’ve seen several teams make Finals runs with less than that.

I’m not even saying they have to win the title this season nor am I saying if they don’t make a run they need to make major changes. But for this specific season - They are beyond good enough to make the Finals

If you feel Tatum & Luka wouldn’t be scrutinized if they failed to win with SGA’s supporting cast, then cool we can agree to disagree. As for the rest, I’m standing firm on that.
 

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Okc is youngest team in the league. Celtics is filled with vets average age is almost 27. Young teams don't traditionally win

I said make the Finals, not win.

If OKC makes the Finals and loses to Boston or Cleveland, I would still consider that a successful playoff run. If Dallas beat y’all again in the 2nd or Memphis beat y’all in the WCF, would I? No.
 

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They got till next season, if you don't win by 27 you a bum ass loser. He 26 tho, so he still a kid
 

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They'll get a pass because they're still overachieving expectations. Now if they don't get a deep playoff run next year, then people will start to look at them sideways.
 

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Why not?

Tatum alone caught plenty of shyt for the Celtics not getting it done and prior to last season he was never on a 1 seed, a 60 win team or won MVP and SGA is about to do all that shyt

Y’all can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to be dominant and treated like an underdog. The Thunder’s house money playoff run was last season. They’re in the show now

So Shai can have a 57-win season and 60+ win season b2b and still be playing with house money. Incredible :wow:

SHAI WAS BY FAR THE
BEST PLAYER IN THAT MAVS SERIES
(32 8 & 7 ON 51/55/83 SPLITS)

HIS YOUNG TEAMMATES JUST
WEREN'T READY YET
SO TATUM SMOKING dikk
IN A BIG SERIES DOESNT COMPARE.

IF SGA BALLS OUT LIKE THAT
AND THEY LOSE AGAIN
ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD TRY
TO BLAME HIM.
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SHAI WAS BY FAR THE
BEST PLAYER IN THAT MAVS SERIES
(32 8 & 7 ON 51/55/83 SPLITS)

HIS YOUNG TEAMMATES JUST
WEREN'T READY YET
SO TATUM SMOKING dikk
IN A BIG SERIES DOESNT COMPARE.

IF SGA BALLS OUT LIKE THAT
AND THEY LOSE AGAIN
ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD TRY
TO BLAME HIM.
:devil:
:evil:


If OKC runs into Dallas again in the 2nd or WCF and loses will you consider it a disappointment?
 

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Where am I whining? I made literally one post, that you decided to engage with on your own accord.

Also I’m not looking for a narrative. They’re a really fukking great team regardless of how young or old they are, therefore I have high expectations for them. I don’t think there’s a single team in the West that’s even arguably better than them.

I said exactly why I would view it as a disappointment if they don’t get to the Finals. They’re on pace for 68 wins (Which would tie for top 5 all time), they have the likely MVP, they have an all-star 2nd option, an elite C rotation, high quality role players, the #1 defense and the reigning COY. Hell we’ve seen several teams make Finals runs with less than that.

I’m not even saying they have to win the title this season nor am I saying if they don’t make a run they need to make major changes. But for this specific season - They are beyond good enough to make the Finals

If you feel Tatum & Luka wouldn’t be scrutinized if they failed to win with SGA’s supporting cast, then cool we can agree to disagree. As for the rest, I’m standing firm on that.
I'm not the only person you're going back and forth with.

You are looking for a narrative. You're ignoring the unique combination of youth and dominance where the first of those two variables generally don't win a Finals or a Conference Finals. You're ignoring that the C rotation you keep bringing up features a Slenderman player we knew wouldn't have durability coming into the league.

Nobody told you they aren't good enough to make a Finals. We're telling you a team of 24 year olds on the 1st and 2nd units not doing it doesn't yet deserve the scarlett letter you're looking to give them, and that Tatum nor Luka won't be getting burned by media for missing a Finals while being damn near the oldest on the team.
 

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If OKC runs into Dallas again in the 2nd or WCF and loses will you consider it a disappointment?

THEIR SECOND BEST PLAYER IS
IN HIS 2ND YR AND HAS BARELY PLAYED
THIS SEASON.

THEIR 3RD BEST PLAYER
IS IN HIS THIRD YR.

TEAMS WITH THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE
DONT MAKE THE FINALS.
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:evil:
 

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I'm not the only person you're going back and forth with.

You are looking for a narrative. You're ignoring the unique combination of youth and dominance where the first of those two variables generally don't win a Finals or a Conference Finals. You're ignoring that the C rotation you keep bringing up features a Slenderman player we knew wouldn't have durability coming into the league.

Nobody told you they aren't good enough to make a Finals. We're telling you a team of 24 year olds on the 1st and 2nd units not doing it doesn't yet deserve the scarlett letter you're looking to give them, and that Tatum nor Luka won't be getting burned by media for missing a Finals while being damn near the oldest on the team.

I made one general post that 3 people chose to quote to respond to. Y’all can engage with me but if I respond back then I’m whining? This is a forum, are we not supposed to have discussions?

It’s more than fine to disagree with me but please stop with this sanctimonious bullshyt.

THEIR SECOND BEST PLAYER IS
IN HIS 2ND YR AND HAS BARELY PLAYED
THIS SEASON.

THEIR 3RD BEST PLAYER
IS IN HIS THIRD YR.

TEAMS WITH THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE
DONT MAKE THE FINALS.
:devil:
:evil:




Do teams that win 65+ games, have #1 defenses and an MVP #1 option usually make the Finals though?

Which West team(s) are you favoring over them in a 7 game series?

They are young and I have no problem giving grace for that. Again, I’m not saying they should be put in that championship or bust bag or that Daigenault should be on the hot seat if they lose or they shouldn’t run it back if they lose or SGA can’t win as a #1 if they lose or nothing like that. Their long term future is great regardless

Imo they are by far the best team in the West (which they weren’t last year) and I would consider it a disappointment if they don’t come out of the conference because of everything they have going for them and how I think they compare to their West peers.
 

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I made one general post that 3 people chose to quote to respond to. Y’all can engage with me but if I respond back then I’m whining? This is a forum, are we not supposed to have discussions?

It’s more than fine to disagree with me but please stop with this sanctimonious bullshyt.



Do teams that win 65+ games, have #1 defenses and an MVP #1 option usually make the Finals though?

Which West team(s) are you favoring over them in a 7 game series?

They are young and I have no problem giving grace for that. Again, I’m not saying they should be put in that championship or bust bag or that Daigenault should be on the hot seat if they lose or they shouldn’t run it back if they lose or SGA can’t win as a #1 if they lose or nothing like that. Their long term future is great regardless

Imo they are by far the best team in the West (which they weren’t last year) and I would consider it a disappointment if they don’t come out of the conference because of everything they have going for them and how I think they compare to their West peers.

REGULAR SEASON MEANS NOTHING
IN 2025.

MOST VETERAN SQUADS DONT
GO ALL OUT IN THE REGULAR SEASON
LIKE THE YOUNG BOYS DO.

WHEN THE LIGHTS GET BRIGHT
YOUNG PLAYERS USUALLY DONT
RISE TO THE OCCASION.

SGA IS GONNA BALL OUT.

WILL HIS YOUNG TEAMMATES RISE
TO THE OCCASION IS ANOTHER STORY.

:devil:
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I made one general post that 3 people chose to quote to respond to. Y’all can engage with me but if I respond back then I’m whining? This is a forum, are we not supposed to have discussions?

It’s more than fine to disagree with me but please stop with this sanctimonious bullshyt.
You're whining because your argument is based on trying equate teams that are not the same because your guy caught flack. Everyone is essentially telling you the same thing. The sanctimonious bullshìt isn't on my end of the screen.
 
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