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How has this thread gone 4 pages and no one pointed the arbitrariness of being a "first-ballot HOF"?

Unless the OP is mistaken, this dude isn't saying that the two aren't Hall of Famers...just that they don't deserve the prestige associated with being a "first ballot" inductee.

And after 2-3 years, no one gives a shyt which athlete went in on which ballot.


Police the dumb white boys, HHR. Stop saving them.
 

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Floyd was self made ever since the Gatti beatdown. His resume in the lightweight divisions pretty much had him a HOF lock regardless. Beating DLH easily at 154 (:childplease: split decision) on Cinco De Mayo took him to another level with the casuals.

Mannix is a clown though saying they have to fight each to be first ballot HOF come on really.:what:
 

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Police the dumb white boys, HHR. Stop saving them.

:childplease:

That isn't even close to what was happening here.

I don't know who this dude is at all...and I don't give a fukk.

Only thing I said was that people are misreading the quote. Anything else is you dreaming up my rationale.
 

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:childplease:

That isn't even close to what was happening here.

I don't know who this dude is at all...and I don't give a fukk.

Only thing I said was that people are misreading the quote. Anything else is you dreaming up my rationale.
Man please.

You stay giving these reckless white boys an out. Dude didn't put half the thought into that you invested. He was trolling. You tried to give it legitimacy on some "well.....he didn't mean...." Man please

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He probably was trolling....like I said, I have no idea who this dude is or his rep...or literally ANYTHING about him.

But there is a big difference between "These guys shouldn't be Hall of Famers" and "These guys shouldn't be first ballot Hall of Famers"....I mean, you understand that right?

There's no "well...he didn't mean..." twisting of words here. He literally said "FIRST BALLOT". I didn't see/hear this shyt or look into any further, I don't care that much.

Only one of us seems concerned with anyone's race here, I could give a fukk.

I just found it odd that damn near everyone in here was commenting on him saying they shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

:manny:
 

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He probably was trolling....like I said, I have no idea who this dude is or his rep...or literally ANYTHING about him.

But there is a big difference between "These guys shouldn't be Hall of Famers" and "These guys shouldn't be first ballot Hall of Famers"....I mean, you understand that right?

There's no "well...he didn't mean..." twisting of words here. He literally said "FIRST BALLOT". I didn't see/hear this shyt or look into any further, I don't care that much.

Only one of us seems concerned with anyone's race here, I could give a fukk.

I just found it odd that damn near everyone in here was commenting on him saying they shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

:manny:

how is saying they aren't first ballot hall of famers not trolling? Name all the first ballot HOF's from the current era of boxing... and if they fight each other all of a sudden they are viable candidates
 

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how is saying they aren't first ballot hall of famers not trolling? Name all the first ballot HOF's from the current era of boxing

Exactly.

shyt is obvious. The knee jerk reaction by some of these cats is to protect these idiots. How the fukk are you going to even give life to that bs, putting thought into it?

:wtf:

You don't see niqqas in here giving Jason Whitlock or Sassy A Smith a pass for being idiots, but these white dudes STAY protecting white idiots in the sports world.

It's disgusting.
 

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Whatever, you stay worrying about shyt that never even crosses my mind.

I didn't say he wasn't trolling and I didn't say he wasn't an idiot. How did I give him a pass AT ALL? I didn't even respond to that he said :laugh:

Literally the only thing I pointed out was that a lot of the comments in here were pretty clearly in response to a misread quote.

I mean look....
Both are HoFers, Mannix needs to kill that noise

:rudy:

They were going to the Hall of Fame before the thought of them fighting each other even happened.

Floyd is a undefeated World Champion that beat top tier competition in their prime...he's going in NO MATTER WHAT:laugh:

Those are just on the first page...and are all responding to someone saying they weren't Hall of Famers. No one said that. That is literally the only thing I was responding to.

I couldn't have told you what race this cat was anyway before dudes ran here throwing CAC around :manny:
 

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How has this thread gone 4 pages and no one pointed the arbitrariness of being a "first-ballot HOF"?

Unless the OP is mistaken, this dude isn't saying that the two aren't Hall of Famers...just that they don't deserve the prestige associated with being a "first ballot" inductee.

And after 2-3 years, no one gives a shyt which athlete went in on which ballot.

thats because they are first ballot HOFers. Its disrespect to think otherwise.

Just like you would say its disrespectful to say Albert Pujols isnt a first ballot HOFer.
 

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Of course that's disrespectful, I get that. I wasn't defending the comment at all.

I was only responding to the comments like those I quoted :laugh: that clearly misread the quote

:manny:
 

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Both Manny and Floyd are 1st ballot HOFs.

Just by reading this thread you can see that there's only a few real boxing fans in here. Most cats are just fans of fighters (Floyd and Manny) There's no reason to put one down to bring one up. Both didn't blow up to superstar level until they defeated Oscar. They consistently put on good performances beforehand so they were already stars just not on that Oscar, Roy Jones, Tyson, etc.. level.
That's kind of the reason why they were able to go to the next level after those Oscar fights. Just because you beat a superstar doesn't mean you'll become one. Floyd and Manny were already as big as they were going to be before the Oscar fights. That fight along with the 24/7's just put them over the threshold plain and simple.

No fighter is bigger than the sport of boxing. Fighters don't carry boxing. Fights carry boxing. Think about it this way. How often does the biggest name in boxing have the FOTY. Rarely happens. When was the last time you saw Floyd in a fight that was FOTY worthy (and don't give me the Cotto fight) Same thing with Manny (prolly the 1st Morales fight but that was years ago) Exactly. Fights like Gatti/Ward, Corrales/Castillo, Vasquez/ R.Marquez are what keeps boxing alive, not 2 superstar nikkas in the same weight class p*ssy footing around trying not to fight each other.
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