If Jennifer Lawrence Can't Open a Movie, Who Can?

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Even Leo isn't guaranteed to pull in a smash. J. Edgar was a flop.

Leo does have a lot of successes, but it has more to do with how discerning he is with his roles. He has only made 8 movies in the last 10 years, and all of them were with top notch directors. I mean he won with the Revnant but it's been three years since then and he hasn't made anything, only now coming back out to work with Tarantino again. We'll see if his star would be as bright if he was making 1-2 movies every year like other "stars" do.

This is very important. The top stars have a knack for picking out challenging roles that also have some commercial viability. Guys like Denzel, Leo, Tom Hanks etc., you know that worst case scenario, their movie will be a 6/10 or 7/10 just on the strength of their acting.

Younger actors today have been brought up in the Franchise Era. They get off to strong starts because they're featured in big budget franchise flicks and everyone THINKS they're bonafide stars. However, once they branch out into other kinds movies...it becomes clear that they lack a certain "it" factor. Their commercial success was driven by the name of the movies they were in, and NOT their innate acting ability. Back in the day, A-list actors had to climb the ladder one movie at a time. They had to take lots of roles and shine wherever they could to get bigger and more lucrative deals. Many of the stars today are given the bag first and then try to take on more serious roles later. If you haven't been prepped for meaty roles through extensive theater/TV/small-budget movie experience, it's difficult to ramp up later on.
 

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Silver linings playbook made a lot of money. Red Sparrow is over $100M. But it's it considered a flop? Hunter games made a fortune. But it was gonna make money regardless of her being in it.
That has been said a lot in this thread, but are we for sure about that?

Yes I get Hunger Games was a popular book, but so was Divergent, Maze Runner, 5th Wave, Percy Jackson, Golden Compass and a lot of other young adult series' of books.

I wasn't a fan of the Hunger Game movies - or any of these YA movies - so I'm genuinely just asking about the appeal/draw to them and why Hunger Games smashed and the others flopped or fizzled. But I do remember at the time a lot of people were hyped that it was Jennifer Lawrence playing the main role, since it was around the time she became "Americas darling" or whatever. I could be wrong though, maybe it would have made a fortune with Shailene Woodley as Katiness, too.
 

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When did she blow up? I didn't know her until the fappening happened even though I watched some of her movies before that. She never stood out to me.
 

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That has been said a lot in this thread, but are we for sure about that?

Yes I get Hunger Games was a popular book, but so was Divergent, Maze Runner, 5th Wave, Percy Jackson, Golden Compass and a lot of other young adult series' of books.

I wasn't a fan of the Hunger Game movies - or any of these YA movies - so I'm genuinely just asking about the appeal/draw to them and why Hunger Games smashed and the others flopped or fizzled. But I do remember at the time a lot of people were hyped that it was Jennifer Lawrence playing the main role, since it was around the time she became "Americas darling" or whatever. I could be wrong though, maybe it would have made a fortune with Shailene Woodley as Katiness, too.
nikka Hunger Games have one of the largest fanbase book wise, the movie would of made bank without her.
 

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nikka Hunger Games have one of the largest fanbase book wise, the movie would of made bank without her.

Yes I noted that in the same post you quoted. But doing my googles, there was a huge spike (55% growth) in book sales after the movie was announced and cast.

'Hunger Games' Movie Fuels Sharp Rise in Book Sales

But again, my main question is what separated the Hunger Game movie from all of those other YA movies based on a popular series of books.
 

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Yes I noted that in the same post you quoted. But doing my googles, there was a huge spike (55% growth) in book sales after the movie was announced and cast.

'Hunger Games' Movie Fuels Sharp Rise in Book Sales

But again, my main question is what separated the Hunger Game movie from all of those other YA movies based on a popular series of books.
War, killing, etc. those other movies made it hokey. Hunger games was killing kids by kids and all out war. At least that’s how it was pitched. And to my knowledge, came before maze runner and divergent. To the point those were seen as clones that still made money. Just wasn’t hunger games


I believe she held her own in the role. But it wasn’t any spectacular range of talent where you said she was gonna be a mega star. Maybe some did. She doesn’t have it. You gotta own that fukking screen for somebody to give you 20 million plus back end. To get stories written for you. To open up weak movies with big money, just cause you in it

Like someone else said. Most these stars now did avg acting in big movies, that would have been good regardless
 

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Stars have been dead since social media and the internet democratize the process of becoming famous

people go to a movie for the IP more then the actors

will any of the black panther actors carry a movie on name alone? no

but they can all crave out good to great careers as long as they don't get caught up
 

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She could have developed to be a good actress with a consistent track record like Meryl. If she didn't take the franchise road.
 
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