If Illmatic is the greatest rap album ever

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The problem with this is, in '94 less than 1% of the world had the internet. If you factor in how hardcore you'd have to be, to discuss rap online in '94, when virtually no one had the internet....well let's just say any given internet post from '94 doesn't necessarily reflect reality.

Fred.

it backs your claim though that the source and other media were hyping the album
 

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it backs your claim though that the source and other media were hyping the album

Maybe people hyped it up because *GASP* they liked it? I don't understand why everything has to be some kinda wild X-Filesque conspiracy. For the record people were checking for Nas long before magazines like "The Source" told them to....which is why it's hilarious to hear people say "the media was hyping the album!"....no, anyone familiar with Nas was hyping the album, the media just happened to be a reflection of that.

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Maybe people hyped it up because *GASP* they liked it? I don't understand why everything has to be some kinda wild X-Filesque conspiracy. For the record people were checking for Nas long before magazines like "The Source" told them to....which is why it's hilarious to hear people say "the media was hyping the album!"....no, anyone familiar with Nas was hyping the album, the media just happened to be a reflection of that.

Fred.

lol you're oddly on the defensive here and I don't know what your deal is .. I was just posting a primary source from that era that seemed interesting

I am a long term sohh/coli Nas stan so I'm not here to diss illmatic's hype :laugh: my understanding is that Halftime the song was already out well ahead of the album & that the original Live at the BBQ verse had already got the ball rolling
 

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Death Certificate should be number 2, if not possibly number 1.

Honorable mentions..............

Music 2 Driveby
Livin Like Hustlers
Enter the 36 Chambers
Atliens
Dah Shinin
 

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lol you're oddly on the defensive here and I don't know what your deal is .. I was just posting a primary source from that era that seemed interesting

I am a long term sohh/coli Nas stan so I'm not here to diss illmatic's hype :laugh: my understanding is that Halftime the song was already out well ahead of the album & that the original Live at the BBQ verse had already got the ball rolling

I'm defensive because there is people in this thread that obviously aren't even old enough to be talking about any of this shyt. And this happens for virtually anything that came out pre-2000. A discussion starts, and people start Googling and using Wikipedia and the RIAA website to talk about shyt that happened when they were 3.

Also there is a couple posters that hate NY so much they're completely disconnected from reality....yet they pop up in any thread tangentially related to NY hip-hop.

It gets real old man.

Fred.
 

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i did a thread on this in 2010, and illmatic won by a landslide, followed by reasonable doubt and some others:

79 - Illmatic
25 - Reasonable Doubt
23 - The Infamous
21 - 36 Chambers
20 - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, 7 Day Theory
17 - Ready to Die
16 - Doggystyle
14 - All Eyez On Me
13 - The Chronic, Liquid Swords
12 - Midnight Mauraders, E1999 Eternal
11 - Blueprint, The Score
9 - Death Certificate, Low End Theory
8 - Train of Thought, Black Album, College Dropout
7 - Hell on Earth, Be, Ridin Dirty, Food & Liquor, It Was Written
6 - Life After Death
5 - Return of the Mac, Mos Def & Talib Kweli Are Black Star, Dogg Food, Full Clip: A Decade of Gangstarr, Boy In Da Corner, Diplomatic Immunity, Eminem Show, Southernplayalistic..., We are the Streets, Its Dark and Hell is Hot
4 - Paul's Boutique, Aquemini, Bow Down, The Genie of the Lamp, Doe or Die, Mecca and the Soul Brother, Strictly Business, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Raising Hell, Trap Muzik, Stillmatic, ATLiens, Below The Heavens, Fear of A Black Planet, Ill Na Na
3 - Efil4zaggin, Underground Kingz, The Cool, The Cold Vein, Muddy Waters, 400 Degrees, Creepin Ah Come Up, Me Against The World, Capital Punishment, Flesh of My Flesh
2 - Resurrection, Thug Life: Vol 1, Ghetto D, 2000 BC
1 - Stress: The Extinction Agenda, Get Rich or Die Trying, Paid In Full, Street Gospel, The Game is Thick, Part 2, Nocturnal, Lost Tapes, Lets Get Free, Art of War, Game Theory TM101, Supreme Clientele, Fishscale, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, NORE
 

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No love for face? The Diary is worth mentioning atleast..I'll go with Life After Death rare to see a double-disc album executed that well great flow of tracks lyrically there with RTD and production wise better imo.
 

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The Infamous
The Score
Enter the Wu
Most Beautifullest
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Amerikka's Most
The Coming

These are the albums I can remember banging back to back to back that I would still listen to all the way thru. Honorable mention to Bacdafucup, Sun Rises, Cypress Hill. Anyways:

Illmatic didnt do it for me in 94. Nas was coo but he was basically rambling. His punchlines on Illmatic were thin but his delivery and schemes were dope. In retrospect I appreciate the hell out of Illmatic
 
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