If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

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So lil g only drew in 100k more people than chavez jr

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fukk dan for them wolf tickets. May conor defenitley hurt it. 4.4 mill at 100 a pop, i guess theyre lucky to even generate that. Was hoping that 2 milly rumor was true tho :francis:

JCC Jr vs Canelo was a Mexican rivalry that everyone wanted to see...GGG has never been as big as JCC Jr.
 

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Had been meaning to post this. Breadman did this about a week ago:

I saw a lump on Canelo’s knuckle in one of the press conferences. I don’t know if it carried over in the fight. But winning gloves are recognized as the best sparring gloves. I never understood why more fighters don’t use them to fight in especially in 8oz and 10oz sizes. Canelo hasn’t mentioned a damaged hand but I suspect if he used Winning he had some sort of injury.
and this is maybe the biggest fact that's being overlooked. canelo's hand was badly fukked up after the chavez fight.
I don't think the shyt ever fully healed. I just don't think canelo wanted to delay the fight cause he knew there would be a lot of backlash. but judging by how much swelling there was in this pic, wouldn't be surprised if he had a fracture. might have effected how much he could spar which could be another reason his stamina gave out so early. which makes me even more confident going into the rematch:yeshrug:......but canelo wearing the winning gloves pretty much lets us know he was dealing with some type of injury.



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So lil g only drew in 100k more people than chavez jr

:gucci:

fukk dan for them wolf tickets. May conor defenitley hurt it. 4.4 mill at 100 a pop, i guess theyre lucky to even generate that. Was hoping that 2 milly rumor was true tho :francis:
smh. fat dan can never be trusted on anything related to little g. from 2 mil to 1.3:gucci:......still great but 2 mil would be amazing
 

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People claiming robbery are delusional. Excellent fight, but I must say that Canelo was blocking, slipping, and effectively countering most of Golovkin's work all fight. Canelo often retreated to the ropes where Golovkin either missed most of his punches thrown, or took a step back, unwilling to pressure the Mexican.

I think Canelo's strength and chin might now be a lil underrated. He moved up in weight and was able to effectively engage in exchanges with one of the hardest punchers P4P and was never in any real trouble. He handled Golovkin much better than Jacobs, who according to most was the much larger man on fight night. The only reason we aren't talking more about Canelo's chin is because Golovkin ate so many clean punches. Imagine that, the bigger puncher getting more props for eating punches all night from a smaller fighter.:lolbron: Golovkin has a great chin, but he was shaken up a few times throughout the fight, and that cannot be overlooked.

I absolutely believe Canelo did the better work, but I'm not upset at a draw. These two definitely need to have a rematch.

Also I think it's funny people were saying Canelo is too flat footed, can't move around the ring, and then proceed to say Canelo was running all night against Golovkin.:pachaha:

Golovkin this devastating power puncher was reduced to damn near only a jab. No body work, ineffective power punching. But Canelo didn't do anything all fight right....

Y'all trippin
and people keep bringing up the first round. little g didn't do a god damn thing in the first round. 13 of his 15 landed shots were jabs and compubox was being generous as hell with that number. watch this first round and tell me where little g landed 15 punches. when the ticker shows up at 30 seconds left and shows little g at 12 landed punches it's like :mindblown:.....dude maybe landed one CLEAR shot up to that point. canelo easily landed the more effective and clean punches in that round. even landed the harder jabs. hands down canelo's round.



 

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and this is maybe the biggest fact that's being overlooked. canelo's hand was badly fukked up after the chavez fight.
I don't think the shyt ever fully healed. I just don't think canelo wanted to delay the fight cause he knew there would be a lot of backlash. but judging by how much swelling there was in this pic, wouldn't be surprised if he had a fracture. might have effected how much he could spar which could be another reason his stamina gave out so early. which makes me even more confident going into the rematch:yeshrug:......but canelo wearing the winning gloves pretty much lets us know he was dealing with some type of injury.



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Fam this some bullshyt. Canelo has had problem with fatigue as far back as anyone could remember.
 

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Fam this some bullshyt. Canelo has had problem with fatigue as far back as anyone could remember.
Never like this though. And I said MAYBE that was a reason. either way just the fact that he was wearing the winning gloves confirms he had a fukked up hand going in. But shyt don't matter at this point. It was ruled a draw and canelo will dominate the rematch:yeshrug:
 

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Never like this though. And I said MAYBE that was a reason. either way just the fact that he was wearing the winning gloves confirms he had a fukked up hand going in. But shyt don't matter at this point. It was ruled a draw and canelo will dominate the rematch:yeshrug:
He faded like this against Trout, hell he faded like this when he was beating the hell out of Chavez jr. Its just the way he trains.
 

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Had been meaning to post this. Breadman did this about a week ago:

I saw a lump on Canelo’s knuckle in one of the press conferences. I don’t know if it carried over in the fight. But winning gloves are recognized as the best sparring gloves. I never understood why more fighters don’t use them to fight in especially in 8oz and 10oz sizes. Canelo hasn’t mentioned a damaged hand but I suspect if he used Winning he had some sort of injury.

I don’t have the rounds memorized I have only seen the fight once. Everyone is talking about the 7th round as a blunder but the 1st round stands out to me. Watching the fight my initial impression is Canelo is giving the round away trying to catch GGG’s rhythm and get a feel for the power. Seriously I didn’t think it was up for debate. Then I see people score the round for Canelo and I saw that all of the judges did too, it really makes me scratch my head. I will watch the fight again.

My gut feeling was absolutely correct. I knew GGG would be up against it. When I saw the bout sheet and he was walking out 1st it just confirmed my feeling all along. How often do we see champions walk out 1st. That’s a tell sign as to who is being “favored” on the fight.

I don’t want to say a judge was paid off. Because as you said if that did happen she could have judged the fight closer and drew less suspicion to herself. By scoring a fight 10 rounds to 2, when everyone else had it 7 to 5 either way or 8 to 4 GGG, then you draw serious suspicion. I know everyone is upset with Judge Byrd but she could have just had a really bad night. I’m not making an excuse for her because I believe GGG won but to draw this kind of fire to yourself makes no sense. Let’s see how the investigation plays out.

I don’t know what is staged and what is not. I have seen some bizarre things in boxing. I have seen some specific rounds be scored so “off” that I knew something wasn’t right. I just don’t know and I don’t want to wreck my brain thinking about it.

The one thing I do know is the people who run boxing like it to be broke like this. They don’t want it fixed. That’s what I do know because if they did it would be fixed. When there is so much confusion and injustice in the sport it makes it easier to do wrong and the wrong go unpunished.

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Bread sounds like a huge dikkrider. This fight is 2wks old and this thread is still poppin? SMFH
 

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Never like this though. And I said MAYBE that was a reason. either way just the fact that he was wearing the winning gloves confirms he had a fukked up hand going in. But shyt don't matter at this point. It was ruled a draw and canelo will dominate the rematch:yeshrug:

No he wont. I just dont see it. His stamina has always been a problem and I think GGG will be less respectful in the first few rounds of the rematch than he was this time around. His power clearly didnt bother GGG and he didn't do as good a job countering as I thought he would.

It would be ideal for Canelo to let his hands go a little more but I'm not sure if he can do that. Like I said, I can't give a man credit if he's been outlanded by over 60 punches. And maybe compubox got it wrong. Maybe it wasn't 60 punches. Maybe it wasn't as many. Maybe it was more. I dont know. But from what I could see, Canelo found out that his power didnt carry as much and didn't have a punch that could keep GGG off of him and I think that wore him down. He was in a fight that he wasn't used to being in and he didn't react well.

The only thing that Canelo has going for him in the rematch is GGG coming in at 36. Other than that, it's hard for me to find a true advantage for him especially based off this performance.
 

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smh. fat dan can never be trusted on anything related to little g. from 2 mil to 1.3:gucci:......still great but 2 mil would be amazing
1.3 million is still really good and a success...2 million would have been amazing.

Yeah, Dan's PPV numbers need receipts. He was saying Canelo-JCC did 1.1 to 1.2 million and in his article Pugmire is saying 1 million even.
 

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I remember people saying I was crazy that GGG would add a matchup "stimulus" with Canelo. I was told GGG-Canelo wouldn't even do JCC numbers. Guess the people did want to see GGG fight Canelo.
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When the official numbers are out, @Newzz might have to break out the files from the storage facility on this one.
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No he wont. I just dont see it. His stamina has always been a problem and I think GGG will be less respectful in the first few rounds of the rematch than he was this time around. His power clearly didnt bother GGG and he didn't do as good a job countering as I thought he would.

It would be ideal for Canelo to let his hands go a little more but I'm not sure if he can do that. Like I said, I can't give a man credit if he's been outlanded by over 60 punches. And maybe compubox got it wrong. Maybe it wasn't 60 punches. Maybe it wasn't as many. Maybe it was more. I dont know. But from what I could see, Canelo found out that his power didnt carry as much and didn't have a punch that could keep GGG off of him and I think that wore him down. He was in a fight that he wasn't used to being in and he didn't react well.

Breh what are you talking about do you really think Golovkin was just being too 'respectful' in the biggest fight of his career? :gucci:

This is about as ridiculous as Golovkin saying he let's people hit him to please the fans.

Canelo didn't do a good job countering? :gucci:

Canelo never hurt him?:gucci:

I'm taking ban bets with anyone who wants it on the rematch y'all really doing too much.:hhh:
 

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Canelo's hand problems are not new. He hurt it vs. Smith, and it was rumored that he hurt it against Chavez as well. It makes a lil more sense why Canelo isn't committing to an immediate rematch he needs to recover.

Edit: you can't look at that picture of Canelo's hand and tell me he didn't have some type of hand injury. Ridiculous swelling.
 

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No he wont. I just dont see it. His stamina has always been a problem and I think GGG will be less respectful in the first few rounds of the rematch than he was this time around. His power clearly didnt bother GGG and he didn't do as good a job countering as I thought he would

It would be ideal for Canelo to let his hands go a little more but I'm not sure if he can do that. Like I said, I can't give a man credit if he's been outlanded by over 60 punches. And maybe compubox got it wrong. Maybe it wasn't 60 punches. Maybe it wasn't as many. Maybe it was more. I dont know. But from what I could see, Canelo found out that his power didnt carry as much and didn't have a punch that could keep GGG off of him and I think that wore him down. He was in a fight that he wasn't used to being in and he didn't react well.

The only thing that Canelo has going for him in the rematch is GGG coming in at 36. Other than that, it's hard for me to find a true advantage for him especially based off this performance.
Little g wasnt being too respectful for no reason. He felt canelo's power early and knew he HAD to be respectful. Also remember he's already sparred canelo so he knew the type of power he had. Its the reason little g was hesitant to let loose on canelo when he was against the ropes. You don't hesitate to throw against a fighter if their power isn't bothering you. Canelo's punching power is the main reason he was able to move around the ring as freely as he did. If little g wasnt feeling his power, he would have been all over him like he was Kell brook. I see little g being no different in the rematch. He's gonna pick his shots wisely and wait for canelo to show fatigue. Canelo's punches are still gonna hurt and his counter punching is still A1. And if his right hand really was hurt, it's gonna be a lot stronger in the rematch. Little g will move cautiously until he senses opportunity.
 
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