If gay marriage is accpeted then so should polygamy

[Jello Biafra]

There is no legal argument to stop 2, 3, 4 or 5 consenting adults from being married as far as I am concerned.
All arguments rely heavily on antiquated societal moors that are heavily steeped in religious dogma.
If you want to be married and have a bunch of sister wives than knock yourself out.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Yea but that's a subjective value coming from society. You don't legislate beliefs/opinions. If she wants to hide beef poles 2-3x a day, as long as nobody is getting hurt (i.e. she is not hiding beef poles while her kids are in the room, she is nto knowingly sperading STDs), govt has no grounds to tell her what to do


Its not so much it makes people who abuse power uncomfortable (I am assuming you mean politicians?), its that it makes politicians constituents uncomfortable. America is and has been transforming from a place where the law was the extension of the beliefs and biases of a powerful few to a place of legitimate and universal freedom. But that freedom comes with a price- some people might be allowed to do shyt you personally don't agree with; however, if they aren't impacting you in any way, really there shouldn't be anything you can do about it.

ok if that is subjective then so is homosexuality being a deviant behavior or not, right?(social value)


the people who pass these laws and even giving attention to something like this when its going to have a rippling effect on the rest of what is considered normal

if people are going to do what they do regardless why even make it this big a deal when it seemingly wouldnt have any effect on anybody else who doesnt deal in that type of thing? obviously it must have some effect on people around us which is why we do not allow pedophiles and child molesters and bestiality lovers or incestuous people the same rights

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Can't believe we're still even talking about gay marriage. Times like this I wish we had a benevolent dictator to cut through some of the bullshyt. Instead of wasting years and years and millions upon millions of hours and dollars on this shyt, we'd just have one dude like:

Some lackey: Uh... uh... Mr. Emperor?
Emperor of the American Empire: You may speak.
Some lackey: Thank you oh kind one. Uhm, sir how do you feel about gay marriage? We have a growing homosexual population and they'd like equal rights.
Emperor of the American Empire: Sure, why not. Make it happen.

 

[Slang]

Can't believe we're still even talking about gay marriage. Times like this I wish we had a benevolent dictator to cut through some of the bullshyt. Instead of wasting years and years and millions upon millions of hours and dollars on this shyt, we'd just have one dude like:

Some lackey: Uh... uh... Mr. Emperor?
Emperor of the American Empire: You may speak.
Some lackey: Thank you oh kind one. Uhm, sir how do you feel about gay marriage? We have a growing homosexual population and they'd like equal rights.
Emperor of the American Empire: Sure, why not. Make it happen.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

ok if that is subjective then so is homosexuality being a deviant behavior or not, right?(social value)

Right, but again like old girl getting her guts filled with goo, if she's cool with it, and the dudes blasting her are cool with it, what's the problem? Theres no victim, so there's no reason to outlaw it.

the people who pass these laws and even giving attention to something like this when its going to have a rippling effect on the rest of what is considered normal

I dont understand this sentence.

if people are going to do what they do regardless why even make it this big a deal when it seemingly wouldnt have any effect on anybody else who doesnt deal in that type of thing? obviously it must have some effect on people around us which is why we do not allow pedophiles and child molesters and bestiality lovers or incestuous people the same rights

How is a gay married couple's existence in any way similar to that of a pedophile or beastialist???? Who is the victim in a gay marriage?

 

[Jello Biafra]

ok if that is subjective then so is homosexuality being a deviant behavior or not, right?(social value)


the people who pass these laws and even giving attention to something like this when its going to have a rippling effect on the rest of what is considered normal

if people are going to do what they do regardless why even make it this big a deal when it seemingly wouldnt have any effect on anybody else who doesnt deal in that type of thing? obviously it must have some effect on people around us which is why we do not allow pedophiles and child molesters and bestiality lovers or incestuous people the same rights

You are conflating the activities of consenting adults with behavior that is in most cases either non-consenting or harmful or both.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Right, but again like old girl getting her guts filled with goo, if she's cool with it, and the dudes blasting her are cool with it, what's the problem? Theres no victim, so there's no reason to outlaw it.


I dont understand this sentence.


How is a gay married couple's existence in any way similar to that of a pedophile or beastialist???? Who is the victim in a gay marriage?

it doesnt matter if there is a victim or not in this case because there isnt one and you know that

they are both equally yoked in the same category as deviant behavior that is a result of mental disorders or they both arent, point being that its flawed and bias when even you are admitting they both are between consenting adults, and out of the two of them women who like alot of sex are the ones with the disorder but not the ones who "naturally" dont want to procreate but just want to have sex


you keep ignoring that incestuous stuff though which was my original point breh, im not going to keep talking in circles about this

the only one that stands out as completely unable to say its between 2 adults is the pedophile and there already was some articles written about how its not a pedophiles fault for liking children like that they were just wired that way genetically from birth like homosexuals supposedly are


you cant have sex with an animal that doesnt want you to have sex with it just be real you think those people who keep gettin caught having sex with horses are pinning horses down and raping them? that shyt is consentual like it or not

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

You are conflating the activities of consenting adults with behavior that is in most cases either non-consenting or harmful or both.

so why isnt incest consenting?

 

[Darts]

Y'all need to watch 'Big Love'

That poly life ain't all peaches and cream.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

it doesnt matter if there is a victim or not in this case because there isnt one and you know that

they are both equally yoked in the same category as deviant behavior that is a result of mental disorders or they both arent, point being that its flawed and bias when even you are admitting they both are between consenting adults, and out of the two of them women who like alot of sex are the ones with the disorder but not the ones who "naturally" dont want to procreate but just want to have sex


you keep ignoring that incestuous stuff though which was my original point breh, im not going to keep talking in circles about this

the only one that stands out as completely unable to say its between 2 adults is the pedophile and there already was some articles written about how its not a pedophiles fault for liking children like that they were just wired that way genetically from birth like homosexuals supposedly are


you cant have sex with an animal that doesnt want you to have sex with it just be real you think those people who keep gettin caught having sex with horses are pinning horses down and raping them? that shyt is consentual like it or not

Again "deviant" behavior is completely subjective. Definition of deviant is:

Departing from usual or accepted standards, esp. in social or sexual behavior.

Deviant doesn't mean destructive or dangerous, basically just different. Some people would call doggystyle position "deviant", does that mean they should have the right to outlaw it?

And studying what compels people to violent behaviors isn't cosigning it. Its important to know how the mind works and what causes people to become violent criminals. But at the end of the day regardless of the cause if someone does a crime they will have to be punished. Pedophilia and animal cruelty will always be crimes, gay marriage won't change that

You are scared of homosexuals and not thinking rationally. Man up and look at things objectively. Gays getting married won't change anything.

 

[Blackking]

If you aren't gay, gay marriage doesn't affect you.

Government benefits are shared and paid for by everyone. So......

Most children are naturally attracted to the opposite sex; so more education and explanation will have to be given.

People's levels of comfort, definitions, ideas, laws, and traditions will be changed in a freakishly swift motion due to a small fraction of citizens.

Not to mention human hormonal cycles, thought patterns, historical gender roles, sexual organs, affects with drugs and food, emotional and nurturing capabilities, etc etc where all set up so that men and women could be partners and reproduce

plus, not every mental abnormality needs to validated.. gay marriage validates this one. Actually, I think validation of the lifestyle is the main reason for the push, not even the need to participate in the institution that has always been men+woman - They could have fought to increase union rights.

so who knows how this will affect sh1t.. maybe the only affect will be to have to call your brothers wife , brother in law.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Again "deviant" behavior is completely subjective. Definition of deviant is:



Deviant doesn't mean destructive or dangerous, basically just different. Some people would call doggystyle position "deviant", does that mean they should have the right to outlaw it?

And studying what compels people to violent behaviors isn't cosigning it. Its important to know how the mind works and what causes people to become violent criminals. But at the end of the day regardless of the cause if someone does a crime they will have to be punished. Pedophilia and animal cruelty will always be crimes, gay marriage won't change that

You are scared of homosexuals and not thinking rationally. Man up and look at things objectively. Gays getting married won't change anything.

i kno the definition and the only things that fall under that category in a book are pedophiles bestiality and nymphomaniac fetishists and suprisingly not homosexuals if you want to support gays do you just dont lie about what you know is and isnt factual like a puppet on strings friend, its not cool and its not making you any more of a man

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Government benefits are shared and paid for by everyone. So......

Most children are naturally attracted to the opposite sex; so more education and explanation will have to be given.

As it should be. Nothing good is born out of ignorance.

People's levels of comfort, definitions, ideas, laws, and traditions will be changed in a freakishly swift motion due to a small fraction of citizens.

Much of this was the same argument used to deny us our rights. "The concept of equality with blacks makes me uncomfortable, therefore we should deny them that". Its no less stupid here.

Not to mention human hormonal cycles, thought patterns, historical gender roles, sexual organs, affects with drugs and food, emotional and nurturing capabilities, etc etc where all set up so that men and women could be partners and reproduce

Much of this is highly debatable. And in any case, there are plenty of people who marry and don't reproduce. Should they be denied marriage rights once the woman enters menopause? Why do you get to decide what the purpose of marriage should be, and who can do it?

plus, not every mental abnormality needs to validated.. gay marriage validates this one. Actually, I think validation of the lifestyle is the main reason for the push, not even the need to participate in the institution that has always been men+woman - They could have fought to increase union rights.

You would make the same argument if they fought to equalize civil union rights. And again, homosexuality being a mental abnormality is your opinion. But even if that is the case, you admit it is something people are born with. PEople with actual mental abnormalities can get married, as long as it is one man and one woman. So why should this "abnormality" be treated any differently?

so who knows how this will affect sh1t.. maybe the only affect will be to have to call your brothers wife , brother in law.

Nobody has been able to point any definite + direct effect this law will have that either isn't an effect of gay people existing that we already have to deal with, or is an effect solely born out of allowing them to marry. There are a lot of hypotheticals and all that that really have no basis in reality.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Poor Dirty Jerz. Intellect so small all he can do is talk about homosexuals.

^^ uh oh looney, don't compare blacks to homos!

 

[Blackking]

As it should be. Nothing good is born out of ignorance.


Much of this was the same argument used to deny us our rights. "The concept of equality with blacks makes me uncomfortable, therefore we should deny them that". Its no less stupid here.


Much of this is highly debatable. And in any case, there are plenty of people who marry and don't reproduce. Should they be denied marriage rights once the woman enters menopause? Why do you get to decide what the purpose of marriage should be, and who can do it?


You would make the same argument if they fought to equalize civil union rights. And again, homosexuality being a mental abnormality is your opinion. But even if that is the case, you admit it is something people are born with. PEople with actual mental abnormalities can get married, as long as it is one man and one woman. So why should this "abnormality" be treated any differently?


Nobody has been able to point any definite + direct effect this law will have that either isn't an effect of gay people existing that we already have to deal with, or is an effect solely born out of allowing them to marry. There are a lot of hypotheticals and all that that really have no basis in reality.

I actually thought that civil unions gave gays the same rights.. I though that was fair. When I found out they didn't the next logical thing is to fight for those actual rights.

This validation fight is see-through as sh1t.