"Idris isn't "English English".." - Roger Moore

[philmonroe]

His comment is racist.

However I have no problems with us keeping fictional characters the way their authors intended.

We can't complain about black fictional characters being whitewashed in film but expect black people to play Asian or white characters.

Are we against whitewashing or not? If so then naturally logic should tell us we shouldn't complain about the opposite then.

Asian characters should be played by Asian actors black by black and so on...

I don't want a white man playing my favourite black fictional characters so I'd be a hypocrite to complain about the opposite.

This is true and see it all the time online because offline cats don't bring this up much.

I personally don't have a problem with his comment but instead the way he phrased it. We're not afraid to say "its because so and so isn't black" so why should he be afraid of saying "its because he's black".

Do we really have a lot of blacks in the same position saying the same thing? Not people on here with nothing to lose. If so since I don't really keep up with stuff like this fair but if not comparing cats on the Internet nobody know isn't the same IMO.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Just like with Michelle Rodriguez Blacks stealing Superhero comments, Blacks aren't even trying or crying for Bond to be black. But looking at people's reaction is funny and shows you racism is still very strong. I grew up on Roger Moore Bond, Connery was just before my Time. But what he said was ignorant. First, Idis was born and raised in London England. Second, not all the Bonds were from England. Third, Bond isn't real. He's not a human being or person. Last, F*ck making Bond Black. Just do our own Bond or Mission Impossible with a new Black Agent RUNNING The team not being a sidekick.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

I couldn't care less about Bond, I haven't seen any of the Bond movies all the way through before, and I think Elba would be amazing in the role

But isn't the character from the book white? I don't think it's "racist" to suggest the character should look similar to how it was written. Just like casting a white person in a role that was written as a black person might be cool in that the white person could be a great actor, but it just would seem awkward and forced

no it isn't. nick fury is a white character, and no one gave a rats ass that a samuel jackson played the character.

this is just flat out CACs being CACs. they're scared the image of a BBC destroying some white actresses p*ssy under the name of Bond is going to be made into a reality on screen.

 

[Raptor]

nollywood made the template

for some reason my mothers collection of nollywood movie covers make me burst out laughin

 

[PoPimp84]

looks like he died 3 years ago but his body still going through the motions

 

[Arishok]

This is true and see it all the time online because offline cats don't bring this up much.

Do we really have a lot of blacks in the same position saying the same thing? Not people on here with nothing to lose. If so since I don't really keep up with stuff like this fair but if not comparing cats on the Internet nobody know isn't the same IMO.

Well if he has something to lose maybe he shouldn't say any thing at all then. It's not like we're idiots who can't read between the lines of his original comment so either say how you feel or don't say anything at all.

 

[DarlingNikki]

This thread is fukking stupid. Everyone asking why "we want" a black bond as if "we" were the ones suggesting it. Black Twitter didn't start this rumor, thecoli didn't start this rumor, it's based on an email created by a white person and sent to another white person. No one gives a fukk who "we want" to play roles.

 

[The Mad Titan]

 

[philmonroe]

Well if he has something to lose maybe he shouldn't say any thing at all then. It's not like we're idiots who can't read between the lines of his original comment so either say how you feel or don't say anything at all.

First part wasn't my point don't know how you got that from what I typed but ok. I already agreed with the second part.

 

[Arishok]

First part wasn't my point don't know how you got that from what I typed but ok. I already agreed with the second part.

You asked about comparing cats on online who have nothing to lose to him, that's why I said the first part. Sorry if it came off as bytchy or aggressive, didn't mean to say it like that.

 

[FaTaL]

i just wish all this sh!t about idris being bond would go away

its aint happening and its time to make his own legacy

 

[scarlxrd]

I personally don't have a problem with his comment but instead the way he phrased it. We're not afraid to say "its because so and so isn't black" so why should he be afraid of saying "its because he's black".

He'd be ostracized, white folks hate being labelled racist but love to distance themselves from openly racist people. Now don't get me wrong, if he wants to let his true feelings be known, go for it. I can respect a racist mother fukker with straight up intent over someone who hides behind semantics but this was the only way he'd be able to get his point across without fukking up what little career he has left. That said, fukk him.

I never got why ppl complain about shyt like this over imaginary ppl, who gives a shyt what color the actor that plays bond , spiderman or one of the avengers or some shyt are, they're not fukking real.

Just putting it out there: Bond is based on a real spy - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...-who-inspired-the-creation-of-James-Bond.html

Comic characters are one thing but this is another reason why we need to leave this 'Idris Bond' shyt alone. He'd be doing that franchise a favor by playing Bond.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

This thread is fukking stupid. Everyone asking why "we want" a black bond as if "we" were the ones suggesting it. Black Twitter didn't start this rumor, thecoli didn't start this rumor, it's based on an email created by a white person and sent to another white person. No one gives a fukk who "we want" to play roles.

This. There is no campaign to make Bond black, or to make the Human Torch or Nick Fury black. That is entirely on white casting directors/writers. If anything, there is a demand for more original black characters.

 

[philmonroe]

You asked about comparing cats on online who have nothing to lose to him, that's why I said the first part. Sorry if it came off as bytchy or aggressive, didn't mean to say it like that.

I asked or was trying to ask is their cases that blacks in the same public position say things like him and or actually say I don't want a white person playing a black role. That's what I asked cause I don't really see that at all (albeit I don't look either) outside of online when I do see this stuff.

Maybe I typed it in a unclear way the first time. Nah you didn't come off bytchy or aggressive IMO. Its not like I can really tell online anyway to be honest unless cats are being snarky or something like that. I just thought you misunderstood my question that's why I tried to explain it more this time around.

 

[Arishok]

I asked or was trying to ask is their cases that blacks in the same public position say things like him and or actually say I don't want a white person playing a black role. That's what I asked cause I don't really see that at all (albeit I don't look either) outside of online when I do see this stuff.

Maybe I typed it in a unclear way the first time. Nah you didn't come off bytchy or aggressive IMO. Its not like I can really tell online anyway to be honest unless cats are being snarky or something like that. I just thought you misunderstood my question that's why I tried to explain it more this time around.

Oh, then I'll answer no. I've never seen a black person in a public position complain but like you I don't go looking either.