Ice Trae The Gang: Official 2018 Atlanta Hawks Offseason Thread

[FreshFromATL]

Hawks interested in Michael Beasley apparently

 

[BlackMajik]

Hawks interested in Michael Beasley apparently

 

[Stone]

I don't wanna be the Raptors

Isn't that why we're rebuilding now? Because we got tired of being that "better constructed team"

Ascending to championship contention in the nba has a lot more luck involved than people want to admit.

Chances are this rebuild is gonna land us back where we were

 

[AVXL]

There was absolutely no reason to pick the Cavs to win shyt other than “they got Bron”. There was really nothing else to factor I don’t want my GM thinking “well, they got suchnsuch so there’s no way anybody is gonna beat them”. If that’s how he thinks, then how are we gonna compete in the next 10 years? Because we’re not gonna get any one player better than Bron, Simmons/Embiid, or Giannis. Golden State pre-KD won because they had the best TEAM on the court, not the best player(depending on how you feel about Curry). I’ll take a GM who believes that the best team on the court will beat the worse team with the better player over one that chases(and almost certainly fails to get) one superstar to solve all our problems.

I disagree. Part of his job as GM is to assess talent, to factor in psychological evaluations and competitiveness and how that translates for a player/team into his/their performance on the court. You can't look at players or teams in a vacuum of "oh they have the better team so that's the main factor of determining who should win". Based off of prior history between the two teams, what we in the general public know and the fact that in the playoffs the team with the better player generally wins. That should've been a signal for him when determining who should've won the CLE/TOR series. I want a GM who factors in everything and thinks outside the box when constructing a team or assessing a team's chances. I'd be disappointed if he thought about it any other way than that.

I don’t either but being the Raptors wouldn’t be so bad if Bron didn’t keep Lowry and Derozan’s nuts in a jar in his garage. You can forecast talent, but there’s no test to determine heart

You can't forecast how these players will play in the playoffs or even if the players you draft will pan out, but I'm trusting Schlenk to have a general sense of how these intangibles like competitiveness, heart, toughness will translate into games. I don't think that's unreasonable or unfair to expect from the GM

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Ascending to championship contention in the nba has a lot more luck involved than people want to admit.

Chances are this rebuild is gonna land us back where we were

Can always take the Philly approach and keep tanking to we land generational talent

 

[Rekkapryde]

Ascending to championship contention in the nba has a lot more luck involved than people want to admit.

Yup, nikkaz wanna clown and be mad but look at the Warriors

Steph got picked 7th
Klay got picked 11th
Draymond got picked 35th
Harrison Barnes was picked 7th (he blew that 2016 Finals more than anyone).

 

[Professor K.]

I disagree. Part of his job as GM is to assess talent, to factor in psychological evaluations and competitiveness and how that translates for a player/team into his/their performance on the court. You can't look at players or teams in a vacuum of "oh they have the better team so that's the main factor of determining who should win". Based off of prior history between the two teams, what we in the general public know and the fact that in the playoffs the team with the better player generally wins. That should've been a signal for him when determining who should've won the CLE/TOR series. I want a GM who factors in everything and thinks outside the box when constructing a team or assessing a team's chances. I'd be disappointed if he thought about it any other way than that.



You can't forecast how these players will play in the playoffs or even if the players you draft will pan out, but I'm trusting Schlenk to have a general sense of how these intangibles like competitiveness, heart, toughness will translate into games. I don't think that's unreasonable or unfair to expect from the GM

What’s unreasonable and unfair is assessing his entire qualification of being a GM based on who he picked to win a 2nd round playoff series I see what you saying but in the end he picked the #1 seed with two perineal all-stars, solid roleplayers, and a deep bench over a team that probably wouldn’t make the playoffs without their star player in his 15th season who needed to be playing out of his damn mind for them to beat the Indiana fukkin Pacers in 7 games. He’s not the only one in the league/media/world who thought that and it’s crazy to nitpick his entire validity as a talent evaluator based on that

 

[FreshFromATL]

So the #Set want to draft Bamba

 

[Julio Jones]

So the #Set want to draft Bamba

I'm officially in the Bamba camp Bagley will be great, but Bamba impresses me. His work ethic and willingness to improve his offensive game is something that has potential to put him up there with Embiid, AD, and KAT in the future.

 

[#1 pick]

I personally like both

 

[O.iatlhawksfan]

Espn mock draft had us taking jaren Jackson and passing on Bamba and Bagley

 

[Sly Cookin]

Espn mock draft had us taking jaren Jackson and passing on Bamba and Bagley

I hope that shyt is a smoke screen we putting out. Would be highly disappointed with that

 

[#1 pick]

Espn mock draft had us taking jaren Jackson and passing on Bamba and Bagley

Draft Deron or CP3, what do we do? Draft Marvin Williams.
Draft Roy or Rudy Gay, what do we do? Draft Shelden Williams. The worst franchise in sports.

 

[Captain Crunch]

So is it officially Mo Money season in Hawks land?

 

[#1 pick]

So is it officially Mo Money season in Hawks land?

We like him a lot. I am Team Bagley but a number of our base like Bamba as he's the best fit next to Collins with the highest ceiling.