"Ice Cube melted on me!" Khalid Muhammad

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Look at this dumb whiteboy.

He gave speeches that changed young black peoples lives and made them proactive.

He actively and publicly made white racists look foolish and debunked some of the garbage they shoveled to the masses.

He acted violently against Klan members.

Doesn't matter that the Million Youth March has declined in attendance since it's inception. The fact that he organized it in the first place shows that he's not a faux revolutionary.

The reason they killed the man, alone, is testament that he was a problem.

Cube didnt give out knowledge to millions,Cube didnt give Khalid his microphone and allow him to reach people he may not have on his own:banderas:?

Only thing Im not liking is him tryna put Cube on blast like that..

I know for a 100% FACT many young black males come to Khalid Muhammad for knowledge,and to find themselves etc....and many of them decide its not for them and they fall back and do other things,or practice on they own.

Khalid wanted to publically call out Cube because HE put Cube at the forefront in order to ride Cubes coat tails as well:mjlol:

Maybe Khalid shouldve made Cube earn his way like he wouldve made anybody else:sas2:

Sounds like he allowed himself to be blinded by the spotlight and donations:sas1:

Matter of fact who knows if they was constantly in Cubes pockets like alot of these organazitions be with regular people,letalong a rich celebrity....Just cuz you not a jew dont mean you got full access to keep ya hand in the cookie jar.

Khalid had done enuff he could say what he want to, but as someone who has Cube as #2 all time goat,So has Cube in my mind:blessed:

Cube still a muslim,he just went his own way,seeing the way some of these "prophets" work I cant even be mad at em,i dont know what happened....would it be a good look for Cube to come out now if Khalid cant defend himself?
 

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Nobody said cube was Malcolm x, but he made pro black music back then and he was running with noi.
Yeah, but he was going after white jews on a couple of albums, esp. Death Certificate. Once he starred in Friday, it was a wrap. And maybe the NOI was asking him to be more committed to the cause than what he was willing to be. But I know nobody was attacking the jewish power structure like Cube was. No other musician ever will again, if they want financial stability.
 

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Imagine dr Muhammad today :wow:
This man is exactly what we need in a leader
And neither was he.

He gave speeches. Big deal.

He made white people "uncomfortable". Oh damn.

Held the million youth march. A function that declined in attendance after the 1998 inaugural one.

He...yeah that just about covers his accomplishments in the the realm of revolutionary activities. The latter being one of distinguished nature in a sense.
:what:fukk is wrong with u

Is it wrong to b a cac n love Khalid Muhammad speeches :mjcry:
its never wrong to love the truth bro
There are many people of all races that loved this man regardless off what the media portrayed
 

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Yeah... I copped NWA, Ammerikka's Most and Death Certificate day one.... but as a entertainer sometimes what you do is more important than what you say... unless you say f the police or cop killer

He was looked at as a gangsta rapper back then still .. he was just consciously speaking.. He was pretty much an vulgar version of PE back then.. (sort of)

edit: i stand corrected.... nevermind ..
For some reason I don't believe you
 

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I never got the impression Cube was really about what he rapped about. The Khalid Muhammad thing seemed to be just a phase to him. He wasn't really a gangsta like that nor as militant as it may have appeared to some. A good rapper and actor though.


Breh, I'm hesitant to criticize Cube too much on that end of things. I'm in my 30's now, and my views are dramatically different from where I was during my teenage years, dramatically different from my early twenties, dramaticaly different from my mid twenties to late twenties, so on and so forth, etc.. I think its ludicrous to expect people to maintain certain positions and outlooks on life forever, and especially unfair if you're comparing them at age twenty to their life at age 46.

Cube dropped Amerikkka's Most at age 20. Death Certificate followed a year later. Predator dropped the following year. Lethal Injection the following year. Get the picture? In other words, he dropped his angriest and more socially conscious music (including NOI influenced lyrics) during his early twenties. I wasn't raised Muslim, but was raised in another pretty damn fundementalist Christian religion, and the converts have always been the more fervent members as is the case with most Western religious converts. Taking that into account, Cube got involved with the NOI in his early twenties. So it's expected that he would have been more hardcore with it as a recent convert and as a young man. One has to exect that initial gusto and zeal. How long does that usually last though? With the religion I was raised in, looking at converts, and all were different, but many of them after being in a few years would lose that zeal, if not peter out entirely.

That said, I'm not surprised to see Cube mellow out after a decade or so. I remember years ago reading an interview with him and he stated that he disagreed with them over some things. That's to be expected, but it doesn't make him any less of a man or a phony because of that. I mean he definately isn't the super gangster he portrayed himself to be during those years, but he wasn't a sucker either. But what's really telling to me is, he's still rapping about politics and social matters in 2015. He's still looking out for Brothers in his own ways. Quite a few Brothers and Sisters are where they're at today because of Cube. He's still conscious, very conscious, just isn't on the exact same page with the NOI. And lets be honest, the NOI isn't for everyone...........just ask Malcom X. To take it a step further, Khalid Muhammad wasn't for everybody either...........just ask the NOI.
 

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Breh, I'm hesitant to criticize Cube too much on that end of things. I'm in my 30's now, and my views are dramatically different from where I was during my teenage years, dramatically different from my early twenties, dramaticaly different from my mid twenties to late twenties, so on and so forth, etc.. I think its ludicrous to expect people to maintain certain positions and outlooks on life forever, and especially unfair if you're comparing them at age twenty to their life at age 46.

Cube dropped Amerikkka's Most at age 20. Death Certificate followed a year later. Predator dropped the following year. Lethal Injection the following year. Get the picture? In other words, he dropped his angriest and more socially conscious music (including NOI influenced lyrics) during his early twenties. I wasn't raised Muslim, but was raised in another pretty damn fundementalist Christian religion, and the converts have always been the more fervent members as is the case with most Western religious converts. Taking that into account, Cube got involved with the NOI in his early twenties. So it's expected that he would have been more hardcore with it as a recent convert and as a young man. One has to exect that initial gusto and zeal. How long does that usually last though? With the religion I was raised in, looking at converts, and all were different, but many of them after being in a few years would lose that zeal, if not peter out entirely.

That said, I'm not surprised to see Cube mellow out after a decade or so. I remember years ago reading an interview with him and he stated that he disagreed with them over some things. That's to be expected, but it doesn't make him any less of a man or a phony because of that. I mean he definately isn't the super gangster he portrayed himself to be during those years, but he wasn't a sucker either. But what's really telling to me is, he's still rapping about politics and social matters in 2015. He's still looking out for Brothers in his own ways. Quite a few Brothers and Sisters are where they're at today because of Cube. He's still conscious, very conscious, just isn't on the exact same page with the NOI. And lets be honest, the NOI isn't for everyone...........just ask Malcom X. To take it a step further, Khalid Muhammad wasn't for everybody either...........just ask the NOI.
I'm hesitant to criticise too, I wasn't criticising Cube though, was more of an opinion/observation. I never got the vibe or impression he was really about what he rapped about.

Yeah I think there are elements to Cube of both, I don't think he's a p*ssy or a hardcore sellout either, I just think what he did at the time was overexxagerated and he was playing a persona somewhat, he's a very good actor. I don't feel he was a gangsta like that nor as militant even at the time.

It's true people grow and develop and that isn't something you can hold against them, infact its commendable but it's whether you evolve or devolve. Personally I don't have a problem with Cube and in some ways I think he's evolved, shame his music declined somewhat though, would love another great Cube album.
 

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Breh, I'm hesitant to criticize Cube too much on that end of things. I'm in my 30's now, and my views are dramatically different from where I was during my teenage years, dramatically different from my early twenties, dramaticaly different from my mid twenties to late twenties, so on and so forth, etc.. I think its ludicrous to expect people to maintain certain positions and outlooks on life forever, and especially unfair if you're comparing them at age twenty to their life at age 46.

Cube dropped Amerikkka's Most at age 20. Death Certificate followed a year later. Predator dropped the following year. Lethal Injection the following year. Get the picture? In other words, he dropped his angriest and more socially conscious music (including NOI influenced lyrics) during his early twenties. I wasn't raised Muslim, but was raised in another pretty damn fundementalist Christian religion, and the converts have always been the more fervent members as is the case with most Western religious converts. Taking that into account, Cube got involved with the NOI in his early twenties. So it's expected that he would have been more hardcore with it as a recent convert and as a young man. One has to exect that initial gusto and zeal. How long does that usually last though? With the religion I was raised in, looking at converts, and all were different, but many of them after being in a few years would lose that zeal, if not peter out entirely.

That said, I'm not surprised to see Cube mellow out after a decade or so. I remember years ago reading an interview with him and he stated that he disagreed with them over some things. That's to be expected, but it doesn't make him any less of a man or a phony because of that. I mean he definately isn't the super gangster he portrayed himself to be during those years, but he wasn't a sucker either. But what's really telling to me is, he's still rapping about politics and social matters in 2015. He's still looking out for Brothers in his own ways. Quite a few Brothers and Sisters are where they're at today because of Cube. He's still conscious, very conscious, just isn't on the exact same page with the NOI. And lets be honest, the NOI isn't for everyone...........just ask Malcom X. To take it a step further, Khalid Muhammad wasn't for everybody either...........just ask the NOI.
I agree with your statement. I think finances play a huge part, because the social climate for Blacks in America is still fukked up. I always have to remind my self that Cube is/was a rapper/entertainer before attaching himself to the NOI, as far as I know. And a lot of times, you're obligated to secure the financial stability of your family above any type of rhetoric. Cube is the same dude that said. "They said I can sing like a jay bird, but nikka, don't say the "j" word." so someone spoke to him early on. In terms of his change in lyrics, I don't disagree with his choices. I don't get the impression that he'll be c00ning or putting on a dress for laughs anytime soon.
 

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And neither was he.

He gave speeches. Big deal.

He made white people "uncomfortable". Oh damn.

Held the million youth march. A function that declined in attendance after the 1998 inaugural one.

He...yeah that just about covers his accomplishments in the the realm of revolutionary activities. The latter being one of distinguished nature in a sense.
You and people like you not feeling the god , only verifies his impact.
 

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its a phase for most people...including these Coli kids.

Anyone that stays like that either learns to make money off their people (I.E. buy my book/listen to my speech about white supremacy)...or they stay broke in the hood complaining about how everyone else is lost.
People like you are discusting:scust:


So anyone who is pro black or down w the nation is either broke or a scam artist.:dwillhuh:
 
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