I Want To Believe... But I Can't: The Official 2023 New York Yankees Off-season Thread

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Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:
Gave Carlos rodon the same deal he wouldn’t even consider offering to Freddie freeman. Spent $21 million a year on Jacoby ellsbury, $15 million a year on :flabbynsick: beltran, & $13 million a year on :flabbynsick: Brian McCann, but he wouldn’t spend $24 million a year on peak Cano. WOAT GM.
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Freeman was never coming here (in reality, the guy they can't let sign anywhere else is Murakami when he posts.)

But yes, how they spend their money is very poor.
$18 mil going to Donaldson and Hicks next year and they won't play an inning,
$32 mil for Stanton
$15 for DJ
$27 for Rodon
$17 Rizzo

$109 mil on dead or useless shyt before we factor in anyone else.
 
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Mantis Toboggan M.D. said:
Every long term deal ends bad seemingly except for Jeter’s 10 year deal that he got at 26. It’s the cost of keeping a star through their prime. The problem is passing on the guys in their mid 20’s who were in line to get those deals that wouldn’t have many years at an age where it should be expected they’d get burned. Of course the last few years of Judge’s deal will probably be bad, but the alternative is losing the face of baseball and the best in house developed Yankee in 60 years less than a decade after losing their last star player in free agency because they got cheap. That’s the sort of thing that irrevocably damages the perception of an organization. The problem is that Judge and Cole are the only guys they committed to long term so the rest of the team is guys on short and bad deals.
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Ask the Angels how valuable it is to have this and still be ass. Meanwhile Houston has no problem letting Cole go, Correa, Springer, Yuli, Marwin, Keuchel, Morton, Musgrove. They even told Verlander "vaya con dios" and not only did they get him back, they had another team pay for most of it. The difference is, they have no problem letting youngins get every opportunity to win spots. The biggest prospect they had other than Kyle Tucker was Forrest Whitley and he still ain't made it to the Show. Everyone else was an ok prospect who got plenty of rope and made the best of it, and the only way the Yankees will give you that rope is under 3 conditions:

1. if you look like a Hall of Famer out the box like Gary Sanchez

2. If the fanbase threatens to revolt (in Volpe's case)

3. If the team is so decimated by injuries they throw in the towel and say fukk it (like Cortes, Cano, Schmidt, etc.)

If Cashman wasn't so scared of his prospects failing, we'd let guys cook. Schmidt is one of the few bright spots of the season and that's mostly because he was allowed to work through his issues. Maybe Florial might have carried over his AAA season and actually shown that he's figuring it out late. But instead we'll point out Florial's strikeout rate as if we don't start a bunch of strikeout artists.
 
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tremonthustler1 said:
Freeman was never coming here (in reality, the guy they can't let sign anywhere else is Murakami when he posts.)

But yes, how they spend their money is very poor.
$18 mil going to Donaldson and Hicks next year and they won't play an inning,
$32 mil for Stanton
$15 for DJ
$27 for Rodon
$17 Rizzo

$109 mil on dead or useless shyt before we factor in anyone else.
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Last year they opened the season with $17 million spent on Chapman, $10 million each on Gallo and hicks, whatever higgy was making, $13 million on Britton, $25 million on Donaldson, and $6 million on ikf. I think the marlins are still eating a big chunk of Stanton’s contract.

tremonthustler1 said:
Ask the Angels how valuable it is to have this and still be ass. Meanwhile Houston has no problem letting Cole go, Correa, Springer, Yuli, Marwin, Keuchel, Morton, Musgrove. They even told Verlander "vaya con dios" and not only did they get him back, they had another team pay for most of it. The difference is, they have no problem letting youngins get every opportunity to win spots. The biggest prospect they had other than Kyle Tucker was Forrest Whitley and he still ain't made it to the Show. Everyone else was an ok prospect who got plenty of rope and made the best of it, and the only way the Yankees will give you that rope is under 3 conditions:

1. if you look like a Hall of Famer out the box like Gary Sanchez

2. If the fanbase threatens to revolt (in Volpe's case)

3. If the team is so decimated by injuries they throw in the towel and say fukk it (like Cortes, Cano, Schmidt, etc.)

If Cashman wasn't so scared of his prospects failing, we'd let guys cook. Schmidt is one of the few bright spots of the season and that's mostly because he was allowed to work through his issues. Maybe Florial might have carried over his AAA season and actually shown that he's figuring it out late. But instead we'll point out Florial's strikeout rate as if we don't start a bunch of strikeout artists.
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The thing with losing stars is that the Yankees are not supposed to be a team that loses their franchise player. They’re supposed to be easy to build a contender with on account of the fact that other great players want to be here for the sake of that uniform, that stadium, that crowd, the home grown star, and the team history and tradition so even if you don’t have a ton of home grown guys they should still be able to make it work. This is where the Hal and Cashman combination burns them. Either play the kids and find out what they’re made of or trade them for proven commodities.
 
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