I think Sub Sahara Africa needs a black Dictator to rule it all before they can ever prosper

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clearly you are a cac playing ignorant to world white power structure and no looking for serious debate so i don't know why i'm even entertaining you..the last major European on European war was in the early 20th century and the since then few Euro on Euro skirmishes which have threatened to spiral out of control NATO immediately intervened to keep the white peace and unity:mjlol:@ you listing the Cold War:a glorified political nonviolent stalemate as a major cac on cac conflict..:stopitslime:


Due to white power structure the USA is basically an extension of Europe which again is reflected in most Western Nations backing eachother on war when one of them is in conflict with non Euro dominate nations.

i forgot to address that but hundreds of millions of non arab Muslims whom practice arab culture and countless of whom are willing to kill or die on behalf of arabs speak to the arab world influence.

tribalism is one of the reasons European and other invaders so easily were able to manipulate Africans and carve up Africa in the first place

due to tribalsim and colonization Rwanda started from humble beginning but has made significant progress as of late under Kagame rule which includes forced integration of Rwandan former rival populations and abandoning tribal affiliations....the country incoincidentaly also under going a development boom...Unlike Amerikkka Cuba under Cacsto doesn't have homeless populations which are large enough to be cities and small towns in themselves...Africa used used similar socialist governance to uplift hundreds of millions out poverty.

the world dominanation e of Pan Europeanism/a unified white power structure is very real and supports every point i've made though:aicmon:

Sounds like you are ignorant of history and so mad at most of yyyour bullshyt being refuted that you have no choice but to try to claim I'm white, as if that would help your dumb ass argument. SMH.
NATO keeping things in control? The same NATO that is trying to push for WW3 by encroaching on Russia is keeping thing from spiriling out of control? I'm sorry man but its clear you have very little actual knowledge of european history and current events. All that said, you've still yet to actually show a unified "white world government", When I brought up pan-germanism and pan-slavism you've yet to respond to how those were both failures. Hell on a smaller scale you can look at the failure of the different forms of nordicism/scandanavism that have failed that blows your argument out of the water.

US isn't really an extension of Europe in terms of power. US has been the dominant state for the last 60+ years and its been europe that has run under the US's command, not the other way around. Again this is clearly seen if you took the time to do a little study of history.

Trying to claim followers of islam suddenly make up members of pan-arabism again shows how you have literally no point in what you are saying. Islam being spread across the world doesn't bolster your arab power argument at all. I'm pretty sure chinese and western culture is all around the world as well, same as judiac culture in the form of Christianity.

tribalism wasn't the reason europeans were able to conquer africa, advancements in technology (honed from constant fighting with each other) is what led to europeans have a technological advantage over chinese, africans, and native americans and aiding their ability to conquer them.

So Kagme violates the rights of people and this is what you call progress? Rwanda's industry is 90% agricultural, last metrics have 55% of the population below the poverty line, and the GDP is 7 billion dollars.
There is nothing successful or that needs to be emulated in looking at that nation.

Cuba has citizens that to this day at risk of death try to get away from it, and you call that a success? Lets not get into the mass jailings for those who speak things the Castro's dont like.

africa is a continent kid, not a nation, so tell me specifically what nation you are talking about, and as for socialism the argument isn't about socialism, its about your call for a strongman and the absurd notion that it can come about via no human atrocities, while supposedly forcing away different cultures, and tribal affiliations which are important to the people there.

There is no pan-europeanism.

Stop making up shyt and just admit you have a fetish for power and don't care about people in your dreams of achieving glory.
 

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As for mod of this section I would nominate either @MansaMusa @IllmaticDelta @Yehuda @Don Drogo @Poitier @Malta @2Quik4UHoes @lotty

These people seem to be the most credibility when it comes to African descent history, culture, worldview, dialogue and current events. @Brooklynzson

@MansaMusa knows his sh*t when talking about current African events. His discussions are mature and serious.

@IllmaticDelta nows his sh*t when it comes to African American culture and history.

@Poitier knows his sh*t when it comes to current black issues/black economics.

@Don Drogo knows his shyt about Ancient African history.
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Sounds like you are ignorant of history and so mad at most of yyyour bullshyt being refuted that you have no choice but to try to claim I'm white, as if that would help your dumb ass argument. SMH.
NATO keeping things in control? The same NATO that is trying to push for WW3 by encroaching on Russia is keeping thing from spiriling out of control? I'm sorry man but its clear you have very little actual knowledge of european history and current events. All that said, you've still yet to actually show a unified "white world government", When I brought up pan-germanism and pan-slavism you've yet to respond to how those were both failures. Hell on a smaller scale you can look at the failure of the different forms of nordicism/scandanavism that have failed that blows your argument out of the water.

US isn't really an extension of Europe in terms of power. US has been the dominant state for the last 60+ years and its been europe that has run under the US's command, not the other way around. Again this is clearly seen if you took the time to do a little study of history.

Trying to claim followers of islam suddenly make up members of pan-arabism again shows how you have literally no point in what you are saying. Islam being spread across the world doesn't bolster your arab power argument at all. I'm pretty sure chinese and western culture is all around the world as well, same as judiac culture in the form of Christianity.

tribalism wasn't the reason europeans were able to conquer africa, advancements in technology (honed from constant fighting with each other) is what led to europeans have a technological advantage over chinese, africans, and native americans and aiding their ability to conquer them.

So Kagme violates the rights of people and this is what you call progress? Rwanda's industry is 90% agricultural, last metrics have 55% of the population below the poverty line, and the GDP is 7 billion dollars.
There is nothing successful or that needs to be emulated in looking at that nation.

Cuba has citizens that to this day at risk of death try to get away from it, and you call that a success? Lets not get into the mass jailings for those who speak things the Castro's dont like.

africa is a continent kid, not a nation, so tell me specifically what nation you are talking about, and as for socialism the argument isn't about socialism, its about your call for a strongman and the absurd notion that it can come about via no human atrocities, while supposedly forcing away different cultures, and tribal affiliations which are important to the people there.

There is no pan-europeanism.

Stop making up shyt and just admit you have a fetish for power and don't care about people in your dreams of achieving glory.
well you sound like a cac threatened by the prospect of Pan African Unity can you blame me?:yeshrug: NATO and the European Union are basically Pan European/white nationalist entities being both support and defend the interest of white supremacy....When Haiti won it's Independence by it wasn't just French cacs whom blackballed them but every Western/white power.:aicmon:

non arab Muslim people/ nations practice arab culture as their own,adhere to arab Islamic law and support arab terrorist groups or governments during conflicts with non Muslims but according to your dumbass none of this is cause of Pan arabsim and arabs have no influence on Muslims:childplease:

with that advanced technology/weaponry European colonial armies were still defeated by Haitian,Angolan and Ethiopian freedom fighters (he later of whom despite diverse ethnic origns operated as a united front which is a testament to what Africans can achieve if they abandon the tribalism and move as one.

its' mostly racist Euopean Cubans whom flee the island cause it's harder to practice economic white supremacyin Cuba under a socialist government

never claimed it was jr..socialism has always been the end game of my argument and i just happen to think it would take strongman to implement such a government across the entire continent...your argument doesn't hold weight considering all the abusive dictators have been Western and arab world puppets d not Pan Africanist.:manny:but to play devl's advocate the as for mentioned President Kagame is labeled a dictator but brought peace to his country

of \course there is ..it's called the European Union and NATO:comeon:
 
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I know I was hard on the OP, but MAYBE regional unity can work out like something resembling the European union and then expanding. Because I been keeping tabs on the EAC and damn I think its possible for the region of EAC to have their own EU before even the AU itself can be like the EU...
 

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Op has a point actually...

It's probably too late in the 21st century for it to happen. But Africa would be a unified nation or small group of nations if there was that leader who swept from south to north to east to west and consolidated the continent. On some, "We're not _______, we're all _______, type shyt.
 

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As a 40 smth yr old born and Kenyan bred here's my take. Democracy ,especially our illusions based on American advertising,ie,the scripted drama of the Caucuses and TV debates isn't for our level of development. Until at least 95% of us have a high school diploma and can comprehend the depth of political issues we're too easily misled and distracted-trust me! I've seen it too many times in our recent history.
Until we're as educated as Swiss who regularly stage national referendums without politicians inciting the people I'd advocate for guided democracy or authoritiarianism of a true leader-that won't happen though,we're all on the democracy koolaid.
Fyi,Idi Amin never did a fraction of what he was accused of. Everything was copacetic til he inevitably fell out with the Israelis who staged the coup and had them GTFO. That's when we heard about cannibalism and other bs-yes,thousands DID DIE BUT IT WAS THE SABOTAGE OF TUTSIS WHO'VE ALWAYS HAD THEIR OWN AGENDA TO RULE THE GREAT LAKES.
 
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