I think Grime could blow up once they get good beats

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Breh Timbo's sound is influenced.... damn near bitten from jungle, drum n bass but slowed way the eff down. Timbo's percussion and bass game is jungle and drum n bass. A lot of grime producers come from the jungle, ragga, drum n bass mc bloodline. Sure Timbo might've influenced some but that DNA isn't his.
Breh, everybodys sound is influenced, that doesn't even mean anything. And i know timbaland was heavily influenced by jungle/drum and bass, its damn near obvious and he's said it a couple of times in interviews...esp when he was trying to take credit for dubstep (:snoop: at him for that)

And please don't try to go against me with timbo's influence on grime producers, i actually know this for a fact that alot of them loved his style (as well as pharrell's)...also the amount of timbo tracks that have been sampled and bootlegged for grime tracks is ridiculous


I get what you're trying to say but i'm taking the grime producers i know in the scene and the evidence infront of me from history over your opinion, no disrespect. I'm not trying to say he was the only influence or biggest influence...but we can't ignore it either
 

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not really

both are an offshoot of UK Garage

both Grime & Dubstep acknowledged each other, Dubstep more so, but they two different genres which (at the time) drew very different demographics. Grime was street music. Dubstep was for 'intelligent' (:scust:) dance music fans

saying that though, it was the Dubstep demographic who welcomed Grime with open arms second time round (when Grime started to gain momentum again around 2011 through the instrumental movement)

also, just to clarify - Grime hasn't technically 'blown' in the UK, but that cos its black music essentially, and black music doesn't get a look in here. in terms of it blowing on an underground level, that shyt has happened over and over again whether it was Jungle, UK Garage (in it's many evolving forms), Grime, Dubstep, UK Funky, Road Rap, Instrumental Grime etc etc

to address the OP - Grime is not simply UK rappers rapping, it's its own fukkin thing with its own set of rules. the beats are what makes it what it is

Section Boys, 67 and them are not Grime, although quite obviously influenced
This is all 110% fact...
 

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Grime pre-dates Dubstep. Dubstep is an off-shoot of grime in many ways.
Brah :dwillhuh: no its not...they both come from dark garage...grime was the mc driven splinter off and dubstep was the producer driven splinter off..both were fed up with how the garage scene was going

And they came about at the same time. It was two different demographics.
 

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Breh Timbo's sound is influenced.... damn near bitten from jungle, drum n bass but slowed way the eff down. Timbo's percussion and bass game is jungle and drum n bass. A lot of grime producers come from the jungle, ragga, drum n bass mc bloodline. Sure Timbo might've influenced some but that DNA isn't his.

only on the coli would an idiot say this.... without the breakbeat and sampling, both American innovations, you lot would have no DNA :heh:
 

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low key my uk black folk mad influential.
its all riddim. not beats. riddim. and no thats not just patois for rhythm.
man dunno nothing bout west indian caribbean riddim.

People forget that the UK is the only place where for one point in time Jamaica was looking at somewhere else, when we was doing Lovers Rock :mjpls:..but i've stirred the pot enough in this thread, so we'll leave that be
 

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Yes, but you obviously don't... think modern reinterpretations of archaic AA music with a few "regional sounds" on top of it is innovative :mjlol:

a man said kwaito and baille funk are modern interpretations of archaic AA music :mjlol:
 
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