I think ASAP Rocky is done

[SirBiatch]

Rocky just never had that much staying power to begin with. He is what some on here like to call a flash in the pan.

Except that he's still here, 4 years later with 2 #1 albums in a row and a blindingly superb mixtape that some people consider one of the greatest things they've ever heard in rap.

We're not talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about Rocky being done if he doesn't strengthen his core (build on Live.Love.ASAP) and maintain quality/consistency in sound. Either because he loses interest/inspiration, or it was never his ideas/passion to begin with (i.e. a Yams construct)

He's been pretty much the biggest underground rapper for the last 4 years. He's not designed for mainstream. He works well with a cult audience. and he's still benefiting off Live.Love.ASAP. That shyt gave him major staying power off the bat.

What I'm arguing is that if he doesn't maintain cult quality, he'll fall off. He's not a fad rapper, at least not in the Cash Out/Trinidad James sense. I think that got dispelled 3 years ago.

The question is: are you seeing Rocky's core fanbase, the ones that lost their minds over Live.Love.ASAP and still love it, loving the shyt outta ALLA? or just being like or even worse

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

shyt was all good just a week ago

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Your opinion is worthless you just like to hear yourself talk.

Youve already been banned once, your rep is already almost -1000 and youll either have the woat tag or be banned for good at the end of the year.

You havent made one intetesting post since you started flooding this forum with your dumb ass.

Just go kill yourself already you miserable fakkit.

competition gonna be tough this year

 

[Prince Cairo]

Except that he's still here, 4 years later with 2 #1 albums in a row and a blindingly superb mixtape that some people consider one of the greatest things they've ever heard in rap.

We're not talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about Rocky being done if he doesn't strengthen his core (build on Live.Love.ASAP) and maintain quality/consistency in sound. Either because he loses interest/inspiration, or it was never his ideas/passion to begin with (i.e. a Yams construct)

He's been pretty much the biggest underground rapper for the last 4 years. He's not designed for mainstream. He works well with a cult audience.

What I'm arguing is that if he doesn't maintain cult quality, he'll fall off. He's not a fad rapper, at least not in the Cash Out/Trinidad James sense. I think that got dispelled 3 years ago.

The question is: are you seeing Rocky's core fanbase, the ones that lost their minds over Live.Love.ASAP and still love it, loving the shyt outta ALLA? or just being like or even worse

I agree with you on the point that he's not a fad rapper, and he definitely does have a solid, albeit minuscule following. I guess in a sense that is staying power, but I just never really thought of him as being that kind of artist. He always seemed to me to be chasing grandeur. From what I understand, rappers like those should, or rather need to have a steady, consistent flow of mixtape releases to keep their core satisfied between releases. How many projects, scratch that, songs even, did Rocky release between LLA and his first album? Or between then and now? If he is to succeed with a cult-like audience like you say, he needs to show them that he actually cares about them. A vibe I don't really get from him at all. If we look at other underground rappers who also have a decently sized following, even if just locally (Spitta, Young Dro, etc.), they constantly "feed" their fans.

As for your comments about consistency, it's hard to determine what the standard should be because like I said, we really haven't gotten that much music from him. His first two sounded pretty different from one another and I know plenty of people on both sides of the fence. I personally preferred the mixtape more, as do you it seems, but our opinions on whether that's what he should focus on might not be that popular among all his fans. That makes your question more difficult to answer, because his 'core' might be both of those categories. And if I had to choose right now, I'd say most are probably going to be in the category. It wasn't necessarily a bad project. Just nothing like Live Love A$AP.

Your point about Yams is interesting too, I've heard lots of other people say Yams more or less was the creative mind behind the mixtape way more than Rocky, and this project is more reflective of Rocky's taste.

 

[SirBiatch]

From what I understand, rappers like those should, or rather need to have a steady, consistent flow of mixtape releases to keep their core satisfied between releases. How many projects, scratch that, songs even, did Rocky release between LLA and his first album? Or between then and now? If he is to succeed with a cult-like audience like you say, he needs to show them that he actually cares about them. A vibe I don't really get from him at all. If we look at other underground rappers who also have a decently sized following, even if just locally (Spitta, Young Dro, etc.), they constantly "feed" their fans.

Nah. If he did what Spitta/Young Dro did, it would have killed his career flat out.

You don't flood the market with Lamborghinis. You flood them with Mazdas. Spitta is mazda. He's never in his life made a record as artistic as "Demons" and never will. Rocky's got a whole mixtape full of shyt like that. Live.Love.ASAP is a Lamborghini (Yamborghini)

I love the fact that Rocky barely releases material. Album artists, as different from singles artists, are supposed to do that. basically, I only hear from you when you have your BEST shyt.

As for your comments about consistency, it's hard to determine what the standard should be because like I said, we really haven't gotten that much music from him. His first two sounded pretty different from one another and I know plenty of people on both sides of the fence. I personally preferred the mixtape more, as do you it seems, but our opinions on whether that's what he should focus on might not be that popular among all his fans. That makes your question more difficult to answer, because his 'core' might be both of those categories.

true. I think they overlap. Though I feel like his core lean more to Live.Love.ASAP because that was the release that got him instant notoriety.

Live.Love.ASAP sounds way more timeless to me. Long.Live is cool in the sense that it works for today's tastes, but I don't staying power in a lot of those songs. They're too trappish. Live.Love.ASAP wasn't like that for the most part.

 

[Black Gatsby]

Album is dope

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

what a surprise, the bottom fell out from under the guy who built his career off of black long sleeve shirts with white lettering


Dude was hip-hop's equivalent of instagram, hope that shyt dies out soon too, people can go back to reading books

 

[riddlerap]

threadstarter is a fukking clown, same as Rocky. perfect match. keep stanning him.

 

[We Ready]

Get mad at your favorite artist for not making the same album over and over brehs

 

[ManBearPig]

I swear the OP thinks everything sucks

 

[DJDONTNOBODYPAYME]

FREE Gucci Mane!

 

[pifftannen]

This new album is wack. Let's keep it real.

As a Rocky fan, I have no inclination to bump the shyt again. And I'm part of Rocky's core. I championed him in his Live.Love.ASAP days when your average hip hop fan didn't get his music. And I'm no hypebeast. It has nothing to do with being "early". Live.love was just special - period. And special people took notice.

To me, your core is everything. We'll cop one or two weak albums, but it won't happen for long. The fairweather will be gone long before that.

Dude needs to find some inspiration, get desperate and energetic again (a big reason why Live.Love was so potent) and reclaim his sound.

The source of that sound is Clams, beautiful Lou, SGP, asap ty beats and Lyle. Or whoever is the next level version of those guys. No more industry producers: they've never made Rocky's best material.

you're a part of his core fanbase and you think he's done after 1 album.

fairweather stans out here man

 

[TheBeigeBomber]

@SirBiatch you know if you make it to the end of the year without being banned you gonna have the booths WOAT banner. you know that right?

 

[EASTATLJERU]

album is dope. stfu and move on. majority think this is better than his last album. fukk your opinion

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

I listened to it all the way thru on Sunday shyt is trash