I think a "new black" movement is absolutely necessary

[Luck]

Where this convo started was with good intent. I don't know where this ended up or the direction it's going now

There needs to be an era of personal responsibility ushered in. White supremacy is the root cause of a lot of this shyt but a lot is our own fault.

For example: my grandmother had four kids she raised for the most part as a single mother in a lower income household because her husband ( my grandfather ) was murdered in Chicago in the late 60s. 2 of her kids, my mother and oldest uncle, are doing very well for themselves. They stayed out the streets for the most part, got educated, worked hard, my uncle started his own business, raised their kids, own homes etc... My other uncle and aunt ran the streets, abused drugs and alcohol and still do to this day, had kids they never took responsibility of that are currently having a bunch of kids they aren't taking responsibility of, never held jobs or did anything relevant, and don't have shyt but government checks, etc...

They all were raised the same household and had the same upbringing so how does this even happen? 2 understood the nature of white supremacy and what it takes for a black person to successful and swim against tide that attempts to hold us back. 2 blame everything and everyone everyone else for their problems instead of taking initiative to understand and fight against the systems designed to hold them back.

Either way amerikkka and cacs are what they are and they aren't going to change any time soon. It's up to us individually to do whatever we need to do to get our piece of the pie out here. With more resources and income we can continue to segregate ourselves and build our own communities up out here which you can see in certain areas out here.

 

[Kitsch]

Where this convo started was with good intent. I don't know where this ended up or the direction it's going now

There needs to be an era of personal responsibility ushered in. White supremacy is the root cause of a lot of this shyt but a lot is our own fault.

For example: my grandmother had four kids she raised for the most part as a single mother in a lower income household because her husband ( my grandfather ) was murdered in Chicago in the late 60s. 2 of her kids, my mother and oldest uncle, are doing very well for themselves. They stayed out the streets for the most part, got educated, worked hard, my uncle started his own business, raised their kids, own homes etc... My other uncle and aunt ran the streets, abused drugs and alcohol and still do to this day, had kids they never took responsibility of that are currently having a bunch of kids they aren't taking responsibility of, never held jobs or did anything relevant, and don't have shyt but government checks, etc...

They all were raised the same household and had the same upbringing so how does this even happen? 2 understood the nature of white supremacy and what it takes for a black person to successful and swim against tide that attempts to hold us back. 2 blame everything and everyone everyone else for their problems instead of taking initiative to understand and fight against the systems designed to hold them back.

Either way amerikkka and cacs are what they are and they aren't going to change any time soon. It's up to us individually to do whatever we need to do to get our piece of the pie out here. With more resources and income we can continue to segregate ourselves and build our own communities up out here which you can see in certain areas out here.

You'd be happy with that?

 

[ZoeGod]

I am all for reperations. It has to be a strong national movement. We have so many c00ns like Stephen A Smith, Taye Diggs etc that will try to undermine us. To get a strong united national movement we will meed a code of conduct on how to deal with c00n traitors, countering white supremacist talking points, using our population size to use our voting power to get our demands.

 

[onelastdeath]

@cook
@Brooklynzson
@Emperor_ReinScarf

One of you brehs move this to the bushes?

 

[360Waves]

wow, breh, so black on black crime has no link to the white man and institutionalized racism

Where did I say it didn't? I get where you're going with this. White supremacy forces us into poverty, impoverished people are more likely to commit crimes. But truthfully, I think this is bullshyt reasoning. To imply that we're being "forced" to commit crimes because of our situation is a sign of weakness. It suggests that we're either too dumb or lacking in resources to do anything else when faced with adversity. Statistically speaking no matter where we stand in the socio-economic ladder we consistently outperform whites in crime substantially, and I know your next talking point is going to be "racial profiling" being responsible for that. Racial profiling is very real, but so are outright dumbasses. I grew up in the hood breh, just like many Coli members, and never once did I feel the "need" to commit any kind of crime. Racial profiling isn't too blame for morons pulling up to a dude's block and lighting him up with bullets. There's a choice behind every decision that's made and an overwhelming percentage of our community choose to make bad ones even when they have family and loved ones that have suffered at the hands of those very same decisions.

mass incarceration and private prison industries for non-violent drug offenses have nothing to do with the rates of single-parents in the black community?

Yeah, I too think the war on drugs is a joke. I think it's responsible for an inflated imprisonment rate for blacks and I think that people should be able to take whatever fukking drug they want if they can afford it. But to suggest that drug incarceration alone is the reason why so many black women are single raising kids is fukking asinine. In fact, it's a god damn fairy tail. You think I didn't grow up amongst my own? Many of our men dip out as soon as they hear the news that they girl they smashed is pregnant and you know that. Do you think that child support jokes became such a talking point within our community by accident? I can name you a boatload of black celebrities who have multiple kids from multiple women and are celebrated. It's pathetic.

standardized tests yield no imbalance based on resources allocated to schools based on income, class, race and demographics of a community

thank you exposing us all to the light

Funnily enough, I went to a pretty trash excuse for a high school, and yet I was Top 5 in my class and went to a great university. I'll be the first to admit that resource allocation for schools is poor in this country. Inner-city schools get the shyt end of the stick. But especially now more than ever if you want to learn there's no reason not to. It's 2015, information is literally at our fingertips and can be sought after whenever you want, it's just a matter of wanting it. shyt school or not that doesn't mean you have to skip class or be lazy. Again, these are choices you can make on your own and an overwhelming amount make the bad ones. I've seen far too many people just like me who've gone to trash schools and made it out successful to continuously blame the schools solely. Regardless of what educational environment I've been in, whether it be an innercity high school or a primarily white university, it was the kids who skipped a lot of class, were oft-late, were lazy and didn't put the work in, etc, that did poorly. Whether they be black, white, asian, whatever. Unfortunately, a strikingly large percentage of our own bare this mindset. Too many want to be rappers or ballers and aren't interested in putting the time in to be anything else, it's not "cool."

Now you're going to call me a "self-hater" for saying all these things. But it's the other way around. You're a self-hater for wanting to hold our people back. You must bare self-hatred for suggesting that our people are too stupid or weak to fix their internal problems, constantly needing someone to hold their hand and give them something. And if you don't like it, I really don't give the slightest fuk. That's why I'm on the come up and you aren't.

 

[Luck]

You'd be happy with that?

What I'm saying is in order for us to get ahead as a whole, everyone has to do their part individually. We aren't in any position to be carrying dead weight because so many of these grown as men and women choose to be on dumb shyt instead of sacrificing, saving, and putting in the time and work neccessary to get themselves and not so indirectly us ( the black community ) where we need to be.

 

[Kitsch]

@cook
@Brooklynzson@Emperor_ReinScarf

One of you brehs move this to the bushes?

Why?

 

[Poitier]

You'd be happy with that?

Its how capitalism was designed.

A few token nikkas who filled a quota talking down to other Black folk.

 

[onelastdeath]

Why?

It got derailed.

Instead of solutions in our community being the focal point of the discussion. it turned into blacks arguing with eachother. Like it always does.

There's no reason for this thread to even be here anymore.

 

[Kitsch]

It got derailed.

Instead of solutions in our community being the focal point of the discussion. it turned into blacks arguing with eachother. Like it always does.

There's no reason for this thread to even be here anymore.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Can't get in that game since, due to 'White Supremacy', 'Black' people only have about 2-3% of the Nation's wealth while comprising almost 15% of the population.

They owe us a LOT of money.​

That ship sailed ALONG time ago. How are we going to acquire the means of production with 3% of the wealth? At least we were being forced for 200 years, but now blacks like the rest of the working class are willingly exploited and even better, some of us think a minimum wage raise is too high and we are not being exploited enough. Ironically OP is one of those people

 

[Poitier]

That ship sailed ALONG time ago. How are we going to acquire the means of production with 3% of the wealth? At least we were being forced for 200 years, but now blacks like the rest of the working class are willingly exploited and even better, some of us think a minimum wage raise is too high and we are not being exploited enough. Ironically OP is one of those people

its so damn sad.

 

[ZoeGod]

Will never happen.

America is going to fall. Probably not now but maybe 50- 100 years. Mexicans are going to be the majority in the southwest states. There will be a time when they will be 60%,70% and then 80% of the population of the southwest. There will be a time where they will simply retake the southwest either through force or violence. Americas continous spending on military affairs will be its downfall. We are heading for dark times and through these dark times we have to prepare and weather these storms. If not we will be food to these right wing militias. A black nation in the south is not impossible. I wrote a long detailed plan here on how it can be done. Georgia has a growing black population. The black population in the south is growing. If we are smart strategic thinkers we use all these things to our advantage. America in its current form wont be here in 100-150 years.

 

[Poitier]

America is going to fall. Probably not now but maybe 50- 100 years. Mexicans are going to be the majority in the southwest states. There will be a time when they will be 60%,70% and then 80% of the population of the southwest. There will be a time where they will simply retake the southwest either through force or violence. Americas continous spending on military affairs will be its downfall. We are heading for dark times and through these dark times we have to prepare and weather these storms. If not we will be food to these right wing militias. A black nation in the south is not impossible. I wrote a long detailed plan here on how it can be done. Georgia has a growing black population. The black population in the south is growing. If we are smart strategic thinkers we use all these things to our advantage. America in its current form wont be here in 100-150 years.

ok

 

[Luck]

Its how capitalism was designed.

A few token nikkas who filled a quota talking down to other Black folk.

Capitalism was founded and supported by people blowing money they don't have to spend on things they don't need creating a cycle of dependency

Only nikkas that agree with this smart dumb mentality are those that grew up in sheltered lifestyles and don't really have experiences outside of that. If understanding that some of us need to do better is "talking down" then you obviously don't understand what that means

Just like I tell my man that talks about starting his own shyt but complains about not having the finances or anything to do so. The nikka smokes cigarettes heavily, weed, and drinks regularly which a lot of us out here do. That's cool and all but that shyts poison and expensive poison at that, you spending hundreds a check for that shyt that you could be saving or putting towards something else. I like smoking squares, green, and getting fukked up just like anyone else but I'm not going to and I'm not paying $11 for pack of squares every other day, $20+ for a bag, $40 for a bottle, etc.... fukk all of that

Capitalism puts liquor stores, gas stations, weed and other drugs in the hood. Capitalism doesn't make nikkas choose to over indulge or even participate in these vices. Capitalism makes Jordan's, yeezys, or whatever other goofy fashion shyt sell for the price is does, it doesn't make anyone pay for it.

People like you who believe in that type of mentality are just as cancerous to the cause as anything else and are agents of white supremacy by enabling the shyt.