I swear to God, if we're not already in hell I'd be honestly surprised

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God casted his son Lucifer (the Devil) down to Earth hundreds of thousands of years ago way before us humans ever came into existence.

Evil runs with this world. That's way this planet Earth has been plagued by so many atrocities, diseases, murder, starvation, heinous crimes, slavery, racism, wars, etc, etc and all the other terrible and horrible things that have happened during it's existence.

We're the only planet in this galaxy to go through all these problems that never seem to end nor will it ever.

Whoever said Hell can only be a pitch black and red backdrop with fire and flames while your soul burns didn't know evil had other plans and ways to torture us in our lives.

Sure what I'm saying might sound like hyperbole because we see others living good and always “winning” in life which would seem impossible if we were living in Hell but who said Hell visually can't be what we're living in now?

Houses, grass, the bright sunny skies, food, clothing, cars, entertainment, etc, etc all the good things we enjoy can just be an extension of hell.

Hell (visually) may not ever be what was it taught to us to be.
The only thing I disagree with. We actually have no way of knowing/verifying what is happening on other planets/if there is other life and what they are experiencing.
 

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naaah you right,:salute:
Isaiah 44:21-23
21 Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me.

22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.

23 Sing, O ye heavens; for the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.
 

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Anyone who does that to the depths I have would say the same because its a foregone conclusion when you stick the pieces together about the nature of this realm.

Humans are absolutely amazing at finessing themselves into believing a narrative that is almost entirely divorced from reality because the implications are so immense they simply cannot process nor handle what is Self evident. If you truly do what you said in that quote and haven't came to this point yet you will and when you do you'll get what I said.
in order to start contemplating infinity you have to realize that there is no line between finite and infinite
 

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Exactly thats why I say there is one thing that is everything which itself is no thing. Better in tune with unfinite.
most people should remember that the word holy does indeed mean whole and complete. God is holy. We do not understand God because we might not have been meant to. The number one is the ultimate paradox. Zero by comparison only has meaning with one, whos existence is only known and continues because of one and those who know one.
 

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A lot of people are missing the point I think. I similarly have these feelings often, wavering between nihilism just pessimism. I'm currently in therapy, and I have bible study with a friend and his father who is a pastor. I have a kindle and just downloaded a bunch of books that people recommended I randomly started on
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I'm only on chapter 2 but so far I highly recommend it. Here's a quote from the book.

"If I worked at Starbucks, instead of writing people’s names on their coffee cup, I’d write the following: One day, you and everyone you love will die. And beyond a small group of people for an extremely brief period of time, little of what you say or do will ever matter. This is the Uncomfortable Truth of life. And everything you think or do is but an elaborate avoidance of it. We are inconsequential cosmic dust, bumping and milling about on a tiny blue speck. We imagine our own importance. We invent our purpose—we are nothing."

Op, I think you have valid criticisms and real expectations that a lot of people don't realize or just pretend they don't happen. Your family will all die, "yea but they aren't dead yet so f it" When you really think about it both sides are right.

I would recommend therapy, journaling and maybe an antidepressant or some type of drug coupled in with a martial arts to help you exist in this crazy world, also belief in a higher power cuz at the end of the day:
 

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 fear of god is commanded in the scriptures yes¿

gods works in mysterious ways yes¿

gods ways are higher than your own yes¿


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god is mysterious, but not confusing

fear Gods commandments not the presence of God

Don't envy Gods ways that he hasnt commanded you to be or understand
 

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A lot of people are missing the point I think. I similarly have these feelings often, wavering between nihilism just pessimism. I'm currently in therapy, and I have bible study with a friend and his father who is a pastor. I have a kindle and just downloaded a bunch of books that people recommended I randomly started on
41IfxstkeAL._SL350_.jpg
I'm only on chapter 2 but so far I highly recommend it. Here's a quote from the book.

"If I worked at Starbucks, instead of writing people’s names on their coffee cup, I’d write the following: One day, you and everyone you love will die. And beyond a small group of people for an extremely brief period of time, little of what you say or do will ever matter. This is the Uncomfortable Truth of life. And everything you think or do is but an elaborate avoidance of it. We are inconsequential cosmic dust, bumping and milling about on a tiny blue speck. We imagine our own importance. We invent our purpose—we are nothing."

Op, I think you have valid criticisms and real expectations that a lot of people don't realize or just pretend they don't happen. Your family will all die, "yea but they aren't dead yet so f it" When you really think about it both sides are right.

I would recommend therapy, journaling and maybe an antidepressant or some type of drug coupled in with a martial arts to help you exist in this crazy world, also belief in a higher power cuz at the end of the day:


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