I still dont understand how Lex Luger flopped so bad in the WWF?

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Yea he was a st8 Hogan rip off but maybe I'm biased because I wanted him to win the title. Not because I was a huge mark but I hated yoko. To me he was still the worse champ ever and it's amazing he held the belt for a year.
 

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No one talked about how they were pushing the fact he had a steel plate in his arm

I really believed he was knocking nikkas out with it as a kid

I was shook when he caught Bret slippin' the mornin' of WM IX at the conference/brunch. Left my dude slumped at the podium :snoop:

Btw how awesome was luger's wcw music he had forever? It was a basic guitar loop but was high energy and they had no reason to change it. When it hit after he beat hogan for the strap in detroit I marked out hard

"Total Package" Lex Luger WCW Theme - YouTube

First person to beat Hogan for the title durin' the nWo era. I marked the fukk out that night :win:
 

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Nah man, NWA/WCW Luger had no impact over how badly his run in WWE/F went.
Lex was very over in NWA/WCW a at the end if his run there was in a feud with Sting for the title.
I always saw his failure in WWE to be a mixture of Vince initially signing Lex for that gay ass bodybuilding fed instead of as a wrestler, then when the WBF failed as expected, saddling him with that idiotic Narcisist gimmick (he could have just been an egotistical douche without taking things to such an absurdly over the top level), forcing a feud with Curt Hennig who was playing the egotistcal character already and a hundred times better at it, then turning him face in a desperate attempt to make him Hulk Hogan 2.0.
His entire time in Vince's employ was a textbook example of mishandling.

exactly. if it aint broke, dont fix it. they shouldve just kept him as "the total package" lex luger, but instead they wanted to make him into a wwf brand. the total package gimmick fit perfectly with the wwf.

between their blantant misuse of luger and the fact that they literally stole him from wcw, its amazing how theyre still mad at luger for leaving to this very day.

Btw how awesome was luger's wcw music he had forever? It was a basic guitar loop but was high energy and they had no reason to change it. When it hit after he beat hogan for the strap in detroit I marked out hard

"Total Package" Lex Luger WCW Theme - YouTube

his o.g. wcw music before he left was way way better than his nitro era theme.
 
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exactly. if it aint broke, dont fix it. they shouldve just kept him as "the total package" lex luger, but instead they wanted to make him into a wwf brand. the total package gimmick fit perfectly with the wwf.

between their blantant misuse of luger and the fact that they literally stole him from wcw, its amazing how theyre still mad at luger for leaving to this very day.



his o.g. wcw music before he left was way way better than his nitro era theme.

:childplease: wcw LITERALLY took luger from wwf, on the debut of nitro, with no warning...luger can go broke for all vince cares and rightfully so.

Luger, JJ, Shane Douglas = blacklisted and rightfully so
 

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you talking about this one wacky d? if so, yeah i loved this theme

 
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This makes no fukking sense.
So, nwa misbooks luger...and then he transitions to wwf...and its a telltale sign to why wwf was inferior?? And its creates why people migrate to wcw????


Wtf?



back in the day,..nwa was the higher quality product incomparison to the wwf.

yet,..when flair migrated after dispute to the wwf.

the ghost and stigma of flair being so dominate in the nwa territories, hurt luger's draw.

as well as an errant heel turn from one of the best perrennial nwa bf's of all time.

to one of the worst heel hw champion runs quality and draw wise in nwa's history.

that stigma and awful misguided heel turn and the pisspoor quality of his turn after flair left. cast a dark shadow on luger. as he never was viewed as credibl, as a champion.

plus as a heel, luger lacked the workrate as a heel to be dominant as well. which spelled disaster,..as well as his lack of skills as a talker.

later,..after he fled from his diasterous run in the nwa as champion.

to the delight of the smart wrasslin community. he soon emerged back in the ring after a failed competitve body builder stint. which also made him look weaker and also an injury from an accident hurt him as well.

the comparison to flair was now in full effect. as flair had persevered the worst possible situations and injuries from numerous accidents in car or plane.

luger's comparison to flair, may have been unfair or warranted depending on the side or stance you took.

yet, in the common fans eyes, he was marginalized by never going over flair.

plus an anemiac heel turn when he finally was booked as champion.

when luger came into the wwf. his heel persona was still as poor or worse than it was in the nwa. which resulted in backlash of the same type from the nwa. yet this time he was in the much larger drawing wwf. who had fan/mark perception of being better. so, when luger never ramped up and was even worse than his nwa run. plus no rack, moniker or anything that made him a popular bf. it spelled disaster for the wwf and for luger as a domestic gateway large me draw. as it stigma'd the wwf,..which made it possible for hogun to go to wcw.

this also is why when the nwo arose.

it was the nwa or wcw's way to squelch the misconcieved wwf is better perception of the gateway fan. as diesel and razor,..now hall & nash amd hogun completed the best promotion jumpmand heel turn draw wise in the history of wrasin. after hogun failed as an inferior wwf style bf in the higher quality wcw roster and ranks as a champion.

if luger would have come into the wwf as luger, the perrennial bf.

he could have changed his stigma and aided wwf perception wise.
that is also why luger is bashed on both sides.

as he was a litmus test that exposed the wwf and also nwa's herd's ineptitude to not succumb to flair. flair's loss and luger next heel run is also how wcw,...was soon able to wrassle away, the nwa's talent as well.
as the nwa fell to wcw because of its inability to give the hw title and duke to talent other than flair. which branded the promotion,..and made it difficult when he left for anyone to come after him and be successful.


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Nah man, NWA/WCW Luger had no impact over how badly his run in WWE/F went.
Lex was very over in NWA/WCW a at the end if his run there was in a feud with Sting for the title.
I always saw his failure in WWE to be a mixture of Vince initially signing Lex for that gay ass bodybuilding fed instead of as a wrestler, then when the WBF failed as expected, saddling him with that idiotic Narcisist gimmick (he could have just been an egotistical douche without taking things to such an absurdly over the top level), forcing a feud with Curt Hennig who was playing the egotistcal character already and a hundred times better at it, then turning him face in a desperate attempt to make him Hulk Hogan 2.0.
His entire time in Vince's employ was a textbook example of mishandling.


you could not have seen luger/flair.
then turned on the tv...then saw flair on wwf.

then saw nwa and luger was now a heel.

luger being turned an awful heel and no explanation on tv, for flair's absence.

was one of the worst wtf is this basura bullshyt times in wrasslin.

luger was never and should never have been a heel.

when flair left,..luger should have been awarded the title in tounie as a bf.

they turned him over windham and luger was never a talker.

now in the shadow of flair as a talker he was horrifically exposed.

if nwa would have just let luger come to the ring after gaining the title as a bf.

squashing cannon fodder and booked him dominantly,..he would have maintwained his draw and never been exposed.

herd's ineptitude to try to make another flair,..withoit flair's talent.

hurt the nwa, and most importsntly luger all time afterward.

as his heel turn turned off all the fans of luger.

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wwe fukked him over that year they had him and bret both win the rumble and get title shots at wrestlemania

these dumb muthafukkas had Luger lose to Yoko and Bret lose to Owen clean then had Bret beat Yoko for the title all in the same night :snoop:

what they shouldve did was have Luger beat Yoko for the belt then have Bret beat Owen and then have Owen interfere and cost Bret the belt against Luger
 
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Simple....He sucked :beli: outside of several moments, Lex Luger was pretty much a non-factor in the 90's for the most part, and by the time the Monday Night Wars was starting to kick in, he REALLY wasn't worth a damn...never was a fan of dude
 
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wwe fukked him over that year they had him and bret both win the rumble and get title shots at wrestlemania

these dumb muthafukkas had Luger lose to Yoko and Bret lose to Owen clean then had Bret beat Yoko for the title all in the same night :snoop:

what they shouldve did was have Luger beat Yoko for the belt then have Bret beat Owen and then have Owen interfere and cost Bret the belt against Luger

Bret WAS leaving that mania with the strap because of how he was fukked the year before. They booked that perfect. They fukked luger (screw him), they protected yoko, and they gave owen the props he deserved in an in-ring clinic, and bret overperformed all night.

You're right, IF they wanna push luger...but they didn't. So that night, fukk him. They should've had owen beat him too
 

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I was shook when he caught Bret slippin' the mornin' of WM IX at the conference/brunch. Left my dude slumped at the podium :snoop:

whats? I dont remember that. how'd that all go down
 

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:childplease: wcw LITERALLY took luger from wwf, on the debut of nitro, with no warning...luger can go broke for all vince cares and rightfully so.

Luger, JJ, Shane Douglas = blacklisted and rightfully so

its the other way around.

for starters, luger wasnt under contract when he jumped ship to nitro in '95. you cant steal a free agent. they have the right to go wherever they want. cmon son. and on top of that, bishoff wasnt even trying to mess with luger again. the only reason he picked him up was off the strength of sting.

NOW IF YOU WANT AN EXAMPLE OF STOLEN TALENT, look no further than when the wwf STOLE luger from wcw in '92, while he was wcw champion. do the knowledge.

you talking about this one wacky d? if so, yeah i loved this theme

"Total Package" Lex Luger Theme (Early '90s) - YouTube

:umad: yea thats it.

it was the nwa or wcw's way to squelch the misconcieved wwf is better perception of the gateway fan. as diesel and razor,..now hall & nash amd hogun completed the best promotion jumpmand heel turn draw wise in the history of wrasin. after hogun failed as an inferior wwf style bf in the higher quality wcw roster and ranks as a champion.

the bolded is hardly ever brought up.
 
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