I saw this old school picture on XXL instagram yesterday and all I could do was sigh

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Doesnt the same apply to those named tho, except maybe J Prince? I agree with this thread, but i dont know about that. Unless u talking about before they hooked up with majors?

No you're right. Suge DAME Irv Puff all had bosses too. shyt everyone does. But they had way more power than the indepedent artists do today. Its one thing to be an "independent" artist its another to have your own brand and somewhat be self made and not take peoples handouts i.e. Hov Biggs Dame starting Roc A Fella when no other nikkas wanted to give them a chance. Yes they still were with majors...but it was a start
 

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The future of the game is looking so trash right now, it makes me even more appreciative of when Kirby, Cole, Wale n em were the young bucks :wow:

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Meanwhile. ..that was the start of all the faq shyt
 
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This is a ridiculous statement. All those nikkas you named all had joint venture deals with major labels to get to where they are. A lot of artists these days are successful with distribution deals with distribution labels (not major distributers)

Nipsey Hussle was just selling mixtapes for $100 & $1000 a piece. That's not making moves?

Gucci Mane

Fetty Wap

Chance The Rapper

I'm probably missing some obvious ones but that's off top

Edit: I think Suge still owns the Deathrow masters so he gets a pass

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Luke, Tony Draper, P, Williams Brothers, J Prince, Suge, Ted Lucas, E-40,,,,, Those guys were owners for the most part,,,,,
 

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One thing I hate. Is when nikkas act obtuse and play stupid like they don't understand what OP is trying to say. nikka be tryna play devils advocate just for the fukk of it. It's OBVIOUS the quality was on a COMPLETELY different level. And that's damn near due to the fact that not ANYONE could just pick up a mic and rap and put they shyt up for millions of people to hear. And we were allowed to call shyt wack back then as well. Social media didn't exist so people who didnt belong having their opinions heard. Weren't heard. U had people who were actually skilled and good at their jobs in every facet of the game. There was definitely wackness..wasnt pushed as great tho and people took it for what it was. They weren't taken seriously. nikkas get called geniuses for just breathing on a track these days and these nikkas ain't even spending time to write they rhymes whether they either wasting an engineers time by punching in every other bar wit they shytty "freestyles" or they actually got other nikkas penning they shyt. All of this without a care in the world. The fans are even terrible. Just look at The Booth. These lil nikkas literally fukked the whole subforum up beyond repair. Terrible thread after terrible thread. Terrible opinion after terrible opinion. I've actually read some of the worst opinions in life on this forum. And it's in real life too. Some lil nikka the other day said fukk Q Tip. He's garbage. Yet wondered why I don't fukk wit Lil Pappy. Cause "he's nice". It's not even a requirement to be coherent. I mean u have exceptions. But it's def not the majority. I don't have a problem wit the culture changing. But not all change is good.
 

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Was it taken the same time as
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Weird dudes have always been in existence, weird fashion etc.
I just posted two of the biggest artists, you posted dudes that move zero units.
The biggest dudes of this generation are Kendrick, Big Sean, Drake and J. Cole.. I've not seen them looking like Young Thug and that Sean Connor or whatever his name is. Motherfukking Snoop Dogg and his gang were riding around with straight perms.

You are only posting street dudes too, minus the weirdo from the gay capital, gangsters are usually insecure. Therefore they rock shyt so that no one can ever mistake them for a homo, although one of the most "90 hiphop" people in the game was exposed as one and he dressed exactly like the people you posted.
 
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