I said Steph Curry has the best skillset of any pg ever and my friends say im wilding

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The PG position to me and my n1gga JPlaya is like the "hip hop" "emcee" conversation to some..

You know how some folks can't accept that Drake is an emcee in the same terms as KRS-One or Rakim? Then there's others that say "they all have the occupation of rappers, why would you pigeonhole one of them?"

It just comes down to how you view the importance of words and their literal definitions or traditional roles..

I said all that to call you a Drake Stan

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I don't quite understand that analogy. Rap is subjective (the importance of words and their definitions are how the listener perceives/relates to them), so the lines can't be parallel to something like basketball, which is defined by numbers. Is Drake really an apt comparison to someone like Curry who's just as skilled as the KRS-One, Rakim, Kool G Rap types of his field? Drake is as skilled as a rapper as Tony Allen is an offensive player.

The role of a PG hasn't changed - it's to orchestrate and move the offense as best as one possibly can - these new types have just found a better way at doing it.
 

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Brehs, I don't think dudes understand the difference between Zeke and Curry's scoring so I'm gonna try to paint this the best way I can.

Curry is Kobe/Durant and Zeke is Joe Johnson/Nick Young. They're on entirely different tiers of scoring ability.

Curry scores more on efficiency that's so much higher that it's almost disgusting, while taking MUCH HARDER shots and shooting more threes...in less minutes.
 
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not pigeonhololing just talking about in a classic sense of what a PG is.
And that's fine, if you want to have that take of what a PG is. But don't think for a second that means one is a better PG, just because they give you a more familiar sense of clinging onto your childhood.
How many teams now have PGs leading their teams in shot attempts for game. It has changed drastically from 15-20 years ago to now. That can't be ignored. The game has rules to make smalls even more dominant on the perimeter. Again this can't be ignored or argued against.
And the point of posting all this is what exactly?
 

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There is some truth here. But it's about way more than volume with Steph. He shooting a lot and a stupid percentage. And it's not like he's wide open either. This guy drains off balance shots in the face of bigger players with regularity. It's really insane. Zeke wasn't even a shooter like that and even if he was born 25 years later and worked on his shot his whole life, he still wouldn't be able to shoot it like Steph. Physicality would impact him, like most smaller players, but how physical can you get when a guy is 26 feet away from the rim with a quick release?

I hear you and I know that Zeke wasn't the shooter Curry is. The thing is the 3 is such a weapon and dudes are encouraged to shoot it so much. Hell a dude can be benched for not shooting it. It also opens up the paint so much that the paint isn't clogged like it once was (also helps with the defensive 3 call).

I would really love to see a dude like Zeke play in this league because he could shoot (of course not as good as Curry). But could put the ball on the floor just as good as anyone in the league. Not to mention very few shot blocker in this league...:whew:

Dude would be like a healthy kyrie Irving with the killer instint of Kobe.
 

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Can someone explain to me how handchecking is supposed to have an affect on him? :jbhmm:


Handchecking didn't seem to do much to Mark Price.

Hand checking didn't affect the great guards. The physical play may have shortened his career. But he still would have been able to get his points in the past.

Shooting, ball handling and passing translate to any era.
 

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I hear you and I know that Zeke wasn't the shooter Curry is. The thing is the 3 is such a weapon and dudes are encouraged to shoot it so much. Hell a dude can be benched for not shooting it. It also opens up the paint so much that the paint isn't clogged like it once was (also helps with the defensive 3 call).

I would really love to see a dude like Zeke play in this league because he could shoot (of course not as good as Curry). But could put the ball on the floor just as good as anyone in the league. Not to mention very few shot blocker in this league...:whew:

Dude would be like a healthy kyrie Irving with the killer instint of Kobe.

I love zeke

One of my favorites

Zeke and magic are the only 2 i can understand putting above steph for todays nba
 

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Brehs, I don't think dudes understand the difference between Zeke and Curry's scoring so I'm gonna try to paint this the best way I can.

Curry is Kobe/Durant and Zeke is Joe Johnson/Nick Young. They're on entirely different tiers of scoring ability.

Curry scores more on efficiency that's so much higher that it's almost disgusting, while taking MUCH HARDER shots and shooting more threes...in less minutes.

I definitely don't agree with you there. Zeke was an assassin & could flat out score; especially during crunch time. While he didn't have the kind of long ball consistency as Steph, he could score in different ways & in a more physical league in the 80's. I don't think Steph would be able to do ALL of what he does if he were in the 80's.
 

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I hear you and I know that Zeke wasn't the shooter Curry is. The thing is the 3 is such a weapon and dudes are encouraged to shoot it so much. Hell a dude can be benched for not shooting it. It also opens up the paint so much that the paint isn't clogged like it once was (also helps with the defensive 3 call).

I would really love to see a dude like Zeke play in this league because he could shoot (of course not as good as Curry). But could put the ball on the floor just as good as anyone in the league. Not to mention very few shot blocker in this league...:whew:

Dude would be like a healthy kyrie Irving with the killer instint of Kobe.

You ain't gotta sell me on Zeke. He would beast in any era, period. But this nikka Steph..."He somethin different"
 

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Steph doesn't have the best skillset of all-time. What Steph has is a very good/great skillset, and ONE skill that is so exceptionally high that it elevates everything else. And he also utilizes his skillset to the highest level.

I mean, what about their actual SKILLSETS (not their overall skill, but the set of skills the have) differentiates Stephen Curry from Steve Nash or Mark Price?

There are point guards who have a post game and a lockdown defensive aspect; Curry does not have that. :yeshrug: Doesn't necessarily even mean they're better than him.
My answer
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
I definitely don't agree with you there. Zeke was an assassin & could flat out score; especially during crunch time. While he didn't have the kind of long ball consistency as Steph, he could score in different ways & in a more physical league in the 80's. I don't think Steph would be able to do ALL of what he does if he were in the 80's.


There's no reason Steph wouldn't do exactly the same thing in the 80s or 90s, just look at this -





Curry is bigger, faster and stronger than him, all while being able to shoot and create off the dribble better. How physical can you be with a guy that's murdering you from outside the paint? It's not like Curry is driving all the time and you can get hard fouls in on him then.
 

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Brehs, I don't think dudes understand the difference between Zeke and Curry's scoring so I'm gonna try to paint this the best way I can.

Curry is Kobe/Durant and Zeke is Joe Johnson/Nick Young. They're on entirely different tiers of scoring ability.

Curry scores more on efficiency that's so much higher that it's almost disgusting, while taking MUCH HARDER shots and shooting more threes...in less minutes.

This is the most disrespectful post i have ever read

How can you disrespect zeke like that?

Like youre dead serious :dahell:
 
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