I remember there was a time when people were saying if Belichick was available half the league would fire their HC to get him

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Because Bill Belicheck before and after Brady is just a mediocre coach at best. His coaching tree tells you everything you need to know.

The New England Patriots is the house that Tom Brady built. In retrospect Bill was just the help.

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Nah. Spygate built that house
 

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This isn’t rap, oh “make another Hov”. Like for real y’all gotta know shyt isn’t ever that simple.

Bill helped Tom. Tom helped Bill.

Unless the NFL is dumb af (which could be the case), they understand that. They don’t fall into the dumbass fan discourse thinking life is cartoons.

Tom won in Tampa, great achievement. But he had a good situation there, solid O and D with a good coach. He pushed them over the line, they weren’t trash before he got there. It’s not like Brady went to Cleveland and won with them.

Bill had Mac, and couldn’t get it done. Maybe with a Pro Bowl level QB he could have, maybe not. Winning isn’t that easy, you need a lot of right pieces. Tom had it in Tampa, Bill didn’t in NE.

When Phil came back after the Bulls run, only 3 teams went after him. Lakers got him. You don’t think most didn’t want to? No they understood that with figures like that, they are selective, picky, and must have some sort of relations with the man already, and a whole lot more (fit, culture, offer).

If Pop was 10 years younger and left the Spurs, even then there wouldn’t be more than 3-4 teams that would actively try and pursue him. shyt probably less.

And I hate Bill. But cook with the dumb shyt.
 

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The Broncos went back to back and the Ravens were the defending champs. That's 3 of the previous 4 SBs. And the Steelers almost beat Dallas.


Those broncos team did not signify a complete change of the guard.
plus create an actual rubrick.
or Blueprint for the afc to change the win loss dynamic In the superbowl like belli. The broncos had discovery zones. from getting killed with Elway.
to know what to possibly do and how to staff the broncos in rhe event of a return trip to the superbowl
from losing so many times in demoralizing fashion. The broncos never made it.
so the other afc teams had a Blueprint.
that would work consistently like belli did. The only superbowls belli lost.
were when belli oddly enough. Started to buy into his darth belli personality and do shyt that goes against this rubrick. Which happened when belli oddly started to feel himself during the superbowl. While in game during the superbowl and not take points. from field goals like his original winning Blueprint.
said to do to win as an afc team.
Whenever belli moved away.
from what would be possibly termed as.
'belli ball' in the superbowl is the only times belli failed to win.
Belli ball or taking points to grind to a win.
via defensive assessment and offensive ball control movement.
under duress for an afc team.
to win a superbowl became the Blueprint and is the only way.
any afc team outside of Mahomes would have won. The idea of ball control offense and a stout defense in the afc is all belli. That even the ravens entire winning seasons are a copy of that model. Which is a belli copy of the 46 with an intangible linebacker Corp.


That is all belli.

To create the afc as an actual rival to the afc currently in the superbowl. Before belli.

It was atypically an nfc destroys afc blowout loss. Of which Elway had numerous ass whooping. That when elway finally had a team staffed on par to handle beating an actual nfc team in rhe superbowl. That was from discovery zones of past ass whippings finally paying off. Which is still smarter than the Buffalo bills.
never switching shyt up and losing four bowls.
Two the same exact way and thinking field goals were cursed for the afc in the superbowl. When belli proved that the field goal and an accurrate kicker.
is the most important first tool for An afc tram to play up and defeat an nfc team in the superbowl.
Which belli knew because he was on the other side of the ball in nyc versus the bills.

Belli is who changed the afc win dynamic in the superbowl.
as a possible actual constant. Elway just had enough discovery zone trips.
that were ass whipping to eventually convert. What belli did is completely different and the afc and the nfl is as popular as it is.
Simply because of belli being savy enough.
to develop the rubrick.
to defeat an nfc with an afc in the superbowl. When previously the afc superbowl bound team. Generally and atypically was gonna take.
a complete mud hole ass whippin to andby an opposing nfc conference champion superbowl team.



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1. Why would he meet with the Falcons if he wants a win now team? He has 8 superbowl rings. He doesn’t need to even coach anymore? It’s not that the chargers don’t want him, he’s not a West Coast guy. He lives in South Florida.

2. The Eagles organization never implied that Siriannis job status was on the line. Eagles fans and people like you pushed that narrative and are running with it.

3. Sean Payton was sitting on interview couches selling himself and creating buzz for himself.
1.)Because the win now teams don’t want him. A 71 year old Bill totally wants a rebuild team. Yeah right. He wants to prove he can win a title without Tom. If you think he doesn’t you’re full of crap.

2.) The guy with the best resume ever is available, your team quit on your coach, you lost to the NFC south winner, and they are like nah we are good.

3.) Sean had more interest than Bill. Stop making excuses. He’s just not as valued around the league as everyone thought.
 

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Same with Brady then when he was available only a few teams went in for him. Raiders flat out passed on him and chose to keep Carr
He plays a position that requires to have physical ability and he was turning 43 before the new season. Belichick's position is purely mental. Totally different scenarios.
 

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This isn’t rap, oh “make another Hov”. Like for real y’all gotta know shyt isn’t ever that simple.

Bill helped Tom. Tom helped Bill.

Unless the NFL is dumb af (which could be the case), they understand that. They don’t fall into the dumbass fan discourse thinking life is cartoons.

Tom won in Tampa, great achievement. But he had a good situation there, solid O and D with a good coach. He pushed them over the line, they weren’t trash before he got there. It’s not like Brady went to Cleveland and won with them.

Bill had Mac, and couldn’t get it done. Maybe with a Pro Bowl level QB he could have, maybe not. Winning isn’t that easy, you need a lot of right pieces. Tom had it in Tampa, Bill didn’t in NE.

When Phil came back after the Bulls run, only 3 teams went after him. Lakers got him. You don’t think most didn’t want to? No they understood that with figures like that, they are selective, picky, and must have some sort of relations with the man already, and a whole lot more (fit, culture, offer).

If Pop was 10 years younger and left the Spurs, even then there wouldn’t be more than 3-4 teams that would actively try and pursue him. shyt probably less.

And I hate Bill. But cook with the dumb shyt.
All this long winded shyt. Bottomline is this, everyone said that Belichick was the mastermind that could win with anyone and Brady was the lucky one for having him. All that shyt was proven to be garbage. fukk all the excuses!!
 

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If Jerry Jones was smart.


He would hire beli.

As real talk.

If jones does not rehire a dominant legacy coach with generational cache. Jones can forget ever winning a superbowl or a post season game. As rhe cowboys would have never reinstalled a legacy of winning pedigree after making Jimmy Johnson leave cause Jones wanted to be all in the video like puff.

If Jerry Jones never hires beli or saban. Jones can forget even having anything in legacy moving forward to warrant being of value past the mainstream marketing of their jerseys and colorway. That propel them as america team to a general gateway fan. Yet that mystique fans have from Jones purchase will die down to nonexistant. Similar to how Jones was able to purchase the cowboys and hand the keys to Johnson and the IBM machine originally. Now that time has clearly passed. Plus it is evident.. the cowboys have no pedigree braintrust attached to winning like Jimmy Johnson brought from Miami left over. Now the energy and draw from Johnson tenure no longer actually us relevent. Jones needs to realize his time to try to handle day to day operations or be in any pr as the centerpiece is over. Jones needs to do the same thing without controversy Vince McMahon did. Draw back and try to let a different drawing dynamic take place to revenue grab in legacy and draw. That which does not exist. Past rabid general gateway Fandom centered around jersey aesthetics.

Now Jones needs to build the cowboys based on actual football pedigree again. That for both Jones and bellies last hurrah to be champions. They both need to be malleable as business men in the nfl. Then see eye to eye and allow the other to cook and be successful. As real talk.

Dallas you only got two moves left before the danger zone.

You need to set up in legacy the last legacy winner as a coach in dallas and make that shyt work for real. Not the old white Sox reinsdork sign an ol legend for clout play. No. Jones and belli need to do it right.

No bullshyt. Even bring In saban as a consultant and make it so you win and grt out of each others way.

After you hopefully set it up to win like Jimmy did. Then you realize. It is onky one college qb with the cache, pr experience and skill to lead as the face of the cowboys. Although I hate to say this.
I kinda feel it is the last move at fixing the cowboys.

The cowboys need to get :


Shedeur.


Past that and belli with saban consulting. The cowboys have no more moves to make on the board.


If Jones does not hire saban or draft sanders.

The cowboys gon be like the orange sherbert buccaneers level if lack of faith as a franchise. That even a change in colorway will not save them.


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Beli is all time great coach, fukk yall talkin bout? He's 70. A lot of teams would like to hire a younger coach. It is what it is.

Poppovich hasn't won a championship since Duncan retired. Is he a bad coach too?
 

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It's funny when people use small sample sizes like "No coach has won the Super Bowl with two teams".

True, but not many coaches have won Super Bowls either and go on to coach elsewhere. They tend to career or finish with one franchise.

A stat like that is pointless. It can be argued that maybe Belichick has lost some drive to win, however, maybe not because of the Tom Brady label and dude may be determined to prove that.

Other coaches have two Super Bowl appearances with separate teams (one loss and one win) like Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, dikk Vermeil, etc. so we've got real close and I think someone will eventually break that trend.

Building championship team is a total piece of work and head coach is only one part of it. Give anyone who knows how to manage football teams great modern players and they're a contender like everyone else.
 
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This isn’t rap, oh “make another Hov”. Like for real y’all gotta know shyt isn’t ever that simple.

Bill helped Tom. Tom helped Bill.

Unless the NFL is dumb af (which could be the case), they understand that. They don’t fall into the dumbass fan discourse thinking life is cartoons.

Tom won in Tampa, great achievement. But he had a good situation there, solid O and D with a good coach. He pushed them over the line, they weren’t trash before he got there. It’s not like Brady went to Cleveland and won with them.

Bill had Mac, and couldn’t get it done. Maybe with a Pro Bowl level QB he could have, maybe not. Winning isn’t that easy, you need a lot of right pieces. Tom had it in Tampa, Bill didn’t in NE.

When Phil came back after the Bulls run, only 3 teams went after him. Lakers got him. You don’t think most didn’t want to? No they understood that with figures like that, they are selective, picky, and must have some sort of relations with the man already, and a whole lot more (fit, culture, offer).

If Pop was 10 years younger and left the Spurs, even then there wouldn’t be more than 3-4 teams that would actively try and pursue him. shyt probably less.

And I hate Bill. But cook with the dumb shyt.
YES THEY WERE, they had a decade plus playoff drought and were consistently at the bottom of their division, Tom came threw away Arians garbage playbook and took them to the Super Bowl year 1!! They would have went back to back too if Todd Bowles didn’t call Cover 0 on the freaking triple crown winner!!! Enough is Enough Belichick is a BELOW AVERAGE COACH without Tom Brady until proven otherwise, period!!!
 
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