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Not particularly well, but Ive read the negro and the education of black people :manny:. He says the top ten percent of blacks need to uplift the rest, which isnt exactly what i was advocating, but I also didnt give any particular community agenda. I told a 18 year old alcoholic that quit his job to read a book about self esteem and self worth.

Sue me :obama:

Why that book? All the self-help books in existence or articles online and you choose a known white supremacist and capitalist pig's work?
 

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Why that book? All the self-help books in existence or articles online and you choose a known white supremacist and capitalist pig's work?

Thats the one that helped me and led me to science :blessed:

from a life of weed addiction and simping :scusthov:.

Atlas Shrugged :blessed:
 

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Im middle class, my dad worked to allow me to benefit from capitalism, best believe imma :eat:.

But @yo moms needs this type of philosophy. This is starter philosophy, you start by getting yourself right and seeing what youre good at then move onto Hobbes and the like. We all need to learn to love ourselves first and formost, especially as black men. Growing up in the community ive seen far too many black men unable to find inner peace resulting in dependence, we need to value ourselves as much as possible.

Every Black man should read DuBois's The Negro and Hobbe's Leviathan. And as much as I hate to say it, black people(and all people) generally arent shyt these days, we need to learn to prosper independently first so we know who the good people are and what is really important. No one has all the answers but Sway.

With all due respect to you, this is heavily incorrect. I am also middle class and work in the family business with my father, so while I can see where you are coming from, I do not agree with it, at all as advice for this boy specifically, yes in a different scenario to a different person, possibly, but a young 18 year old working class back boy trying to find his feet ? Nah. How are you mixing capitalism with 'self love', having a good self image and esteem is not the same as capitalism. A person can be communist and 'love themselves, there is a fine line and classic conservative capitalists such as Amy Rand, passed that line a long time ago.

When an 18 year old black man, asks us older men about his lack of empathy it's irresponsible to say 'yea! just be selfish and a capitalist like Amy Rand'. Any black man who wants to make anything of himself in the Western World will need those key relationships both personal (family support) and professional (mentors, connections). We can't encourage people to be selfish rogues especially not young working class black kids, they need as much help as they can get an the icy personality of a cold Wall Street capitalist is not what's going to help someone like him.

As you said the 10% of black people need to uplift the others, and in order for us to do that we need strong communities, it's a contradiction to encourage people to be selfish yet say we need to uplift each other.
 

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With all due respect to you, this is heavily incorrect. I am also middle class and work in the family business with my father, so while I can see where you are coming from, I do not agree with it, at all as advice for this boy specifically, yes in a different scenario to a different person, possibly, but a young 18 year old working class back boy trying to find his feet ? Nah. How are you mixing capitalism with 'self love', having a good self image and esteem is not the same as capitalism. A person can be communist and 'love themselves, there is a fine line and classic conservative capitalists such as Amy Rand, passed that line a long time ago.

When an 18 year old black man, asks us older men about his lack of empathy it's irresponsible to say 'yea! just be selfish and a capitalist like Amy Rand'. Any black man who wants to make anything of himself in the Western World will need those key relationships both personal (family support) and professional (mentors, connections). We can't encourage people to be selfish rogues especially not young working class black kids, they need as much help as they can get an the icy personality of a cold Wall Street capitalist is not what's going to help someone like him.

As you said the 10% of black people need to uplift the others, and in order for us to do that we need strong communities, it's a contradiction to encourage people to be selfish yet say we need to uplift each other.

Quoted for emphasis on greatness here.:obama:
 

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With all due respect to you, this is heavily incorrect. I am also middle class and work in the family business with my father, so while I can see where you are coming from, I do not agree with it, at all as advice for this boy specifically, yes in a different scenario to a different person, possibly, but a young 18 year old working class back boy trying to find his feet ? Nah. How are you mixing capitalism with 'self love', having a good self image and esteem is not the same as capitalism. A person can be communist and 'love themselves, there is a fine line and classic conservative capitalists such as Amy Rand, passed that line a long time ago.

When an 18 year old black man, asks us older men about his lack of empathy it's irresponsible to say 'yea! just be selfish and a capitalist like Amy Rand'. Any black man who wants to make anything of himself in the Western World will need those key relationships both personal (family support) and professional (mentors, connections). We can't encourage people to be selfish rogues especially not young working class black kids, they need as much help as they can get an the icy personality of a cold Wall Street capitalist is not what's going to help someone like him.

As you said the 10% of black people need to uplift the others, and in order for us to do that we need strong communities, it's a contradiction to encourage people to be selfish yet say we need to uplift each other.


I appreciate you and what you say, but im the same age as yo moms, 19. When I was 15-16 all i cared about was smoking weed and trying to get white girls to like me. Atlas Shrugged, the stranger, and the brothers karanazov saved me from a life of wasted potential and depression. I went from being asked to drop out of my school in a failing urban district to getting a full ride to engineering school at an AAU university.

Everything comes down to each of us just having a better general understanding of the world. We all need to read more and get more knowledge. It starts with self esteem.

Low key native son may have been the better recommendation :ohhh:
 

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Breh, you can't innately not show sympathy/empathy, you're not a sociopath, if you were you wouldn't be making this thread, and also I can tell you're not, trust me on that. So that's out of the way, you're not a psycho/sociopath whatever.

You're just angry, frustrated and emotionally numb. From a young age you've gone through a lot so your brains natural means of protecting you was to 'shut off' and now being 'shut off' is your default feeling. The vodka is also a 'downer' so your brain is constantly quite a 'dark' place.

Now, right now, it's not like you can't show sympathy, it's that you can't show ANY emotion, big difference, you don't allow yourself to get too angry, too excited, too anything and empathy and sympathy are just two things, right now you're not allowing yourself to show anything.

Breh, you're in a bit of a hard place at the moment, so how you are is perfectly normal, you are a black man who has to experience the racism that most black people experience but unlike other black people you didn't have the parents to help you cope, you have a white mother who God bless her, can't teach you how to be a black man. Your black father who could have been the person to teach you those things wasn't a consistent present figure. You are growing up in a racist white world which is built to work against you with little support.

The 'system' isn't something that works for you, you haven't liked education and you don't like typical work. So you're at a place where by you see the things you want (girls, cars, money, blah blah) but you don't have the resources to get them. You're broke, you want money but you don't fit the mold of the people that the 'normal world' allows to get money.

Why you feel so numb is common sense, you've been through a lot and you're trying your best to get through.

What you must focus on how is how to allow this to work for you, or snap out of it.

:wow:

I'm just so confused on what to do in life right now. Everyone keeps telling me to join the military but that's because I'm around the white side of my family. Do they not understand how racist the cacs are in the military. They are disgusting in your face racists :pacspit: ill prolly be in military prison for fukking up some of these pricks.
 

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Well do you then man.

We have a huge issue in that the way the societal oppressor has framed things makes everything seem :demonic:. Our path to prosperity will require us to make use of all knowledge available, all philosophies, all war tactics, all farming techniques.

Everything that brings people together is destroyed now, thats why everything is based on individual consumption. Even things that bring people together like sports are rooted in individualism and division.

No better place to get together then in our own economic spheres.
 

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I appreciate you and what you say, but im the same age as yo moms, 19. When I was 15-16 all i cared about was smoking weed and trying to get white girls to like me. Atlas Shrugged, the stranger, and the brothers karanazov saved me from a life of wasted potential and depression. I went from being asked to drop out of my school in a failing urban district to getting a full ride to engineering school at an AAU university.

Everything comes down to each of us just having a better general understanding of the world. We all need to read more and get more knowledge. It starts with self esteem.

Low key native son may have been the better recommendation :ohhh:

Its too late for me. I got asked to leave school at 16 with nothing. No qualifications at all. There is literally zero chance of me going to a university ever.
 

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I'm just so confused on what to do in life right now. Everyone keeps telling me to join the military but that's because I'm around the white side of my family. Do they not understand how racist the cacs are in the military. They are disgusting in your face racists :pacspit: ill prolly be in military prison for fukking up some of these pricks.

Actually, studies show that the military, although still racist, is more tolerant than any other group...I've heard that from some of my military brehs and from some articles I've read, but I guess its based on perspective...it may be a good thing to look into just for ideas
 

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Its too late for me. I got asked to leave school at 16 with nothing. No qualifications at all. There is literally zero chance of me going to a university ever.


There are no community colleges over there?

But yea, brother, thats how the system works. Society hates nothing more than us africans with western citizenship, which is why everything they do concerning us is to take away our citizenship(send us to jail, abort us, mis-educate). I dont have all the answers, but I will say your hope lies in the internet. You can learn computer skills. Its a cold , cold world man.
 

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I appreciate you and what you say, but im the same age as yo moms, 19. When I was 15-16 all i cared about was smoking weed and trying to get white girls to like me. Atlas Shrugged, the stranger, and the brothers karanazov saved me from a life of wasted potential and depression. I went from being asked to drop out of my school in a failing urban district to getting a full ride to engineering school at an AAU university.

Everything comes down to each of us just having a better general understanding of the world. We all need to read more and get more knowledge. It starts with self esteem.

Low key native son may have been the better recommendation :ohhh:

Capitalism isn't self esteem. You are using them interchangeably and they aren't the same thing.

Preaching capitalism to a black man who needs help with what to do is not an answer to boost his self esteem.

I believe all you are saying to be correct, however, I don't believe it's appropriate in this situation.

The advice you are giving simply isn't applicable to him as he is not interested in the typical, go to school, be ruthless in the office route, that's another thing, capitalism that Amy Rand preaches simply won't be applicable to some people at all, as everyone's different.

How about advice specific to his case :lupe:
 

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We have a huge issue in that the way the societal oppressor has framed things makes everything seem :demonic:. Our path to prosperity will require us to make use of all knowledge available, all philosophies, all war tactics, all farming techniques.

Everything that brings people together is destroyed now, thats why everything is based on individual consumption. Even things that bring people together like sports are rooted in individualism and division.

No better place to get together then in our own racial spheres, then socioeconomic spheres.

Fixed.
 

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There are no community colleges over there?

But yea, brother, thats how the system works. Society hates nothing more than us africans with western citizenship, which is why everything they do concerning us is to take away our citizenship(send us to jail, abort us, mis-educate). I dont have all the answers, but I will say your hope lies in the internet. You can learn computer skills. Its a cold , cold world man.

I couldn't get into my local colleges. Got rejected 3 times in 2 years. I don't have any gcse's or anything so that kind of fukked me up I think :huhldup:
 

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Capitalism isn't self esteem. You are using them interchangeably and they aren't the same thing.

Preaching capitalism to a black man who needs help with what to do is not an answer to boost his self esteem.

I believe all you are saying to be correct, however, I don't believe it's appropriate in this situation.

The advice you are giving simply isn't applicable to him as he is not interested in the typical, go to school, be ruthless in the office route, that's another thing, capitalism that Amy Rand preaches simply won't be applicable to some people at all, as everyone's different.

How about advice specific to his case :lupe:


Well what im in support of is black men, before anything, being able to take pride in something. Capitalism lets us do that. This isnt really something to be right or wrong about haha.

The problem is that what rand advocates is what youre gonna need to do to overcome the system. We dont overcome anything by staying broke.
 
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