I Got Two Questions For Christians Here. How Old Is Earth & How Can The Bible Be The Word Of God?

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many different species evolving into several others during recorded history. (which means the original common ancestor vanishes).

if this happaned on a large scale then images of animals from 4000 - 6000 years ago in Egypt, Turkey etc ...
So evolution has pretty much been proven untrue, especially in the timespan widely professed by Darwin, Dawkins etc. I would start with the Walcott and the Burgess Shale fossils to began your research.

A lot of respected publications have pretty much questioned the accuracy of evolution as well like the Science Journal. Look at the 94' article "Homology of the eyeglass gene......"

I have studied this stuff rather thoroughly -- and not from YouTube videos either. No disrespect to anyone but I don't believe that should be the start and end of any in depth knowledge.

I can't explain everything but what I can I will try or at least point you in the right direction.
 

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dunno. that is how they do it tho :hubie:
while slightly off topic, egypt believed in circular time meaning everything will happen again but with variation

in modern times people assume linear time is real, but in truth because of the assumptions of death we assume discrete beginnings and endings

i used a mobius strip to illustrate how this may actually beguile people

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God made a world without end :jbhmm:
 

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You got to remember for us to get the age of the earth we are counting backwards while God is creating forward. So the numbers appear different because of that but they are actually exactly the same.
 
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I can't explain everything but what I can I will try or at least point you in the right direction.

man you can't even answer my questions. two central questions that you guys have had the majority of 6000 years to formulate an answer for.

why it is so hard to just answer directly is beyond me.

how you expect people to llisten to that shoe-shuffling jack-legged question-dodging pontification is beyond me.
 

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in modern times people assume linear time is real, but in truth because of the assumptions of death we assume discrete beginnings and endings

which people? not physicists.

those are big statements.

how much do you know about what theoretical physicists believe?
 

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man you can't even answer my questions. two central questions that you guys have had the majority of 6000 years to formulate an answer for.

why it is so hard to just answer directly is beyond me.

how you expect people to llisten to that shoe-shuffling jack-legged question-dodging pontification is beyond me.

I answered your questions. You want me to go in detail on stuff that would take pages to explain so it's easier AND more beneficial to you to do the work yourself if I point where to start. I told you 6000 years is the beginning of Adam's existence not the age of the earth. There is human time and cosmic time. Cosmic time goes back 15.7 billion years roughly. We know when cosmic time starts by looking at cosmic radiation through telescopes etc. The reason why the Bible says 6 days and science says 15 billion years is because we are counting backwards in time and God is creating forward.

When the universe was created it was incredibly, hot which caused space to expand rapidly. Now it's incredibly cold -- like -400 and something I believe and the expansion has slowed. The reason why this is important is because the expansion of space explains the apparent "time discrepancy".

For instance, if I'm a mailman and I say I'm going to send you a letter everyday at the same time on the dot for 6 days you would be like "alright cool". So on Day 1 I send my letter from my home to you and you get the letter whenever you get it. So you're like "cool" tomorrow it'll be here at the same time based on the arrival of the first letter, but on day two there is a delay and you're like "WTF". But I'm like I did send the letter at the same time on the dot as I did the day before. The problem why you didn't get the letter at the same time as day 1 is because space is still expanding DURING God's creation. The distance is still increasing so the letters have to travel farther to get to you each day even though I am sending it at exactly the same time from my home base from Day 1 - 6. So because I'm looking forward in time as the sender my day one is a day 1 according to the Bible and because science is looking backwards in time ACCOUNTING ALSO FOR THE INCREASED DISTANCE DUE TO SPACE EXPANSION day 1 is roughly 7 billion years. The time of both God and man is the same but the perspective of observation is what makes the numbers "appear to be off".
 

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which people? not physicists.

those are big statements.

how much do you know about what theoretical physicists believe?
Why do you need other peoples opinions to form your own? It’s intellectually lazy. Study the subjects yourself!

The one thing that stifles science is assumption of finality on topics(discrete beginnings and ends)
 

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Why do you need other peoples opinions to form your own? It’s intellectually lazy. Study the subjects yourself!

The one thing that stifles science is assumption of finality on topics(discrete beginnings and ends)

lord ha mercy :wtf: these religious people dread :mjlol:you lot suffer from disordered minds
 
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In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void. God's Spirit hovered over the waters of the deep. And God said "Let there be light", and there was light.
 
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You got it wrong buddy. 6000 years comes from when Adam first appeared which is the beginning of time, not the age of the earth. The earth is roughly 15 billion years old and both science and the Bible proves that.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16


We don't know how old the earth is because the method of measuring age is flawed. God can create things at an already mature state. So if God created Adam a grown man, then how old is Adam when he was created? His appearance will say one thing, but reality is something else. Your eyes can and do lie to you if you rely on what you see.
 
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If we keep the debate trapped within the main Abrahamic religions:

Those books are just baby food for the masses. The ordained scholars keep a lot hidden. The truth in their view is still contained in the books but in its simplistic, easily digestible form for the unintelligent masses alongside some politically motivated writings. Some truths they deem too dangerous for the average Joe. It’s nursery stories mainly to explain more complex ideas.

Also, a man seems to have existed who was taught within this learned circle and wanted to reveal more to the masses but both ‘Jews’ and ‘Romans’ come together to kill him. His seemingly powerful message disappears, his name is changed and even the calendars are reset lol. Christianity and Islam are created by the same circle to give the masses choice

Who is so powerful on earth that they can kill “God/God’s son” simply for wanting to help people? What does that subliminal teaching do to your psyche? If you tried to spread good, what would they do to you ?😂

Nowadays a lot more is available online about the teachings beyond the scriptures but there are certain things you can only learn in person from another. I wouldn’t put too much weight on the technicalities of the available scriptures - it’s just an unsolvable puzzle

Lol, too much of a rant now but let me end with this side discussion: whoever taught Elijah Muhammad was also educated by these people with the hidden. A story taught that mankind was more advanced than we are now, thousands of years ago (some say 6000), and reached a stage of even creating other humans. When the gods returned to visit and saw this they punished them to be ruled by their creations. It takes years to be taught this crazy story and it seems similar to the NOI teaching

Like I said, this is all within the confines of of these religious books and their so called keepers of knowledge - it could all be nonsense.

In the end what does the detail of the background matter? Just elevate your perception and live good with your fellow creations, reading reality that’s all around you and passing your personal tests during your GTA mission on earth, before you take off the VR headsets and remember your real self :mjgrin:
 

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If we keep the debate trapped within the main Abrahamic religions:

Those books are just baby food for the masses. The ordained scholars keep a lot hidden. The truth in their view is still contained in the books but in its simplistic, easily digestible form for the unintelligent masses alongside some politically motivated writings. Some truths they deem too dangerous for the average Joe. It’s nursery stories mainly to explain more complex ideas.

Also, a man seems to have existed who was taught within this learned circle and wanted to reveal more to the masses but both ‘Jews’ and ‘Romans’ come together to kill him. His seemingly powerful message disappears, his name is changed and even the calendars are reset lol. Christianity and Islam are created by the same circle to give the masses choice

Who is so powerful on earth that they can kill “God/God’s son” simply for wanting to help people? What does that subliminal teaching do to your psyche? If you tried to spread good, what would they do to you ?😂

Nowadays a lot more is available online about the teachings beyond the scriptures but there are certain things you can only learn in person from another. I wouldn’t put too much weight on the technicalities of the available scriptures - it’s just an unsolvable puzzle

Lol, too much of a rant now but let me end with this side discussion: whoever taught Elijah Muhammad was also educated by these people with the hidden. A story taught that mankind was more advanced than we are now, thousands of years ago (some say 6000), and reached a stage of even creating other humans. When the gods returned to visit and saw this they punished them to be ruled by their creations. It takes years to be taught this crazy story and it seems similar to the NOI teaching

Like I said, this is all within the confines of of these religious books and their so called keepers of knowledge - it could all be nonsense.

In the end what does the detail of the background matter? Just elevate your perception and live good with your fellow creations, reading reality that’s all around you and passing your personal tests during your GTA mission on earth, before you take off the VR headsets and remember your real self :mjgrin:


You haven't read the bible if that's your view of it. I can tell by the way you talk about it. Don't even try to lie and say you read it, because you don't. I don't even want to hear it. You have no clue the depth of what the bible is talking about.

Babylon is your teacher. You're so blinded by the prideful way of man that you don't realize the damage that has been done to your way of thinking. God's Word is the only way to tune your mind to view the world the right way, instead of taking what prideful man has to say about this world.
 
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You haven't read the bible if that's your view of it. I can tell by the way you talk about it. Don't even try to lie and say you read it, because you don't. I don't even want to hear it. You have no clue the depth of what the bible is talking about.
Yeah you’re right
 
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