JerseyBoy23
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Not until October 8th
I feel like WWE is in a dangerous place right now
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Not until October 8th
JerseyBoy23
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The one thing I think a lot of people overlook with TNA is the fact that they still have a presence in the US, Canada, India, South Africa and the UK while NJPW is only broadcast to Japan, US and Canada.
What I'm saying NJPW may have a better in-ring and storyline product but they need to entrench themselves in other countries because right now GFW/TNA is in more households around the world. Also with their talent sharing with AAA, NOAH and CRASH.
Also what's crazy about GFW's fall is that WWE's probably lost more viewers in the same timeframe.
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Bruh what? The Indy scene is the strongest it's been in a long time, put down that WWE kool aid.
okgoodnotgreat
Pro
I just wish I had the $$ and the connections because the blueprint is right there for a good second promotion. Really, the only thing holding it back is the right TV channel. ROH is on some random channel and GFW/IMPACT is at POP TV. You need like a channel two levels up.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
No it's not. You see how much talent that left the Indys & went to the wwe.
Just about everybody who was worth a damn left TNA & is now in the wwe.
Roh is still at the same position it's always been & NJPW is NJPW.
It's a noticeable void in the Indy scene.
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
No it's not. You see how much talent that left the Indys & went to the wwe.
Just about everybody who was worth a damn left TNA & is now in the wwe.
Roh is still at the same position it's always been & NJPW is NJPW.
It's a noticeable void in the Indy scene.
Those aren't really indies per se just cause they aren't WWE. ROH, TNA, and NJPW are all companies that have a presence on US cable.
@Drones is talking about the non-televised companies that get people to come to their local shows weekly or monthly. Thanks to the internet more people are following those shows by paying for internet streams or buying shirts off of prowrestlingtees.com.
There's no WCW of course, but the wrestling industry has lived for the last 16 years without a WCW.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
All those companies are Indy's. They have very little exposure on American TV.
As far as the generic companies there not even a blimp on the radar. They don't make enough noise.
The wwe is Global & when you think of wrestling you think of wwe.
There's no way anyone can look at the climate of the Indy's & be convinced that it's better than it was 5 years ago when a whole brand essentially collapsed.
The talent pool isn't as good & there's not a company on the scene that can provide what TNA used to provide for the Indy`s.
Pinyapplesuckas
He's A Good Man
my main issue is that they're signing EVERYBODY and they're also cutting costs in a lot of ways because they're losing money...it sucks on one end but ultimately pro wrestling needs WWE to have some low points to really survive...
What void in the Indy scene do you speak of...there's more dudes in the scene below WWE making a good living than there's been in a very long time.
The Young Bucks are a big ass meme but they're making more than almost anyone on the WWE roster off of indie dates and t shirt sales. Cody claims he's tripled his income leaving the E. fukking Bullet Club shirts are damn near the most popular shirts in all of wrestling, go to any show anywhere and you'll see a ton of them.
ROH ain't what they used to be and they get treated like New Japans little brother but they're not the only indie around. they're just one of the most well-known ones.
'NJPW is NJPW' is a meaningless, nothing statement. NJPW isn't an indie but their business has almost doubled every year since 2012. NJPW is still only a fraction of WWEs size but they're a bad example for you to bring up.
Matt Riddle, Jeff Cobb, Sami Callahan, John Morrison, Trent, ZSJ, Brian Cage, Penta, Kota Ibushi, all these dudes are big names as far as wrestling fandom and they're not in the E. I'm not even a huge fan of the independent scene but to say it's in bad shape is objectively false.
NJPW airs in the U.K. The attendance in Long Beach this year is on the high end of what TNA ever gotten for its largest shows. They can run 5,000 seat venues with each upon returning in 2018. Daniel Bryan going to NJPW is a complete game changer. Nakamura being a coming back in 2019 as a much bigger star (no matter how u think the wwe run is going) is a big deal as well. If any company will take any market share from WWE in a way that would be noticed, NJPW can do it in the next couple of years. They have a trash tv deal, but we don't know what form television will take in 2019.
They need to get out of this mindset that they're going to have multiple mid-level stars so that one megastar doesn't blow up and head to hollywood.
The business has always had a face.
Hogan-Austin-Rock-Cena-?
There needs to be that next guy to carry the torch for the next 5 years. Let guys do them. Let Roman be that natural heel and then maybe down the road you can turn him face like you did Rock. Let Ambrose be Jon Moxley. Give guys freedom to become stars on their own.
The business has always had a face.
Hogan-Austin-Rock-Cena-?
There needs to be that next guy to carry the torch for the next 5 years. Let guys do them. Let Roman be that natural heel and then maybe down the road you can turn him face like you did Rock. Let Ambrose be Jon Moxley. Give guys freedom to become stars on their own.
It's Vince. It's always been Vince.
LurkNowitzki
All Star
Go enjoy football season, breh....shyt will still be here when you get back
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
What is all this fantasy shyt about Bryan and Nakamura about?
