I am sharing this because I am Adam Lanzas mother(Official Mental Health Discussion)
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You can barely string a sentence together.
Why should I waste my time?
There's also a thread where I've hashed out your issues.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
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IS NOT ABOUT GUNS OR GUN CONTROL. If a nikka want to kill some people they will find a way. The batman shooter was an expert in explosives. 
These shootings are a indirect product of a broken health care system. A lot of mentally ill people slide through the cracks every day. But instead of focusing on health care reform nikkas want to be reactionary and deal with surface bullshyt like guns. Guns don't kill people, People kill People. Instead of focusing on WHY they killed we worrying about how they did it.
These shootings are a indirect product of a broken health care system. A lot of mentally ill people slide through the cracks every day. But instead of focusing on health care reform nikkas want to be reactionary and deal with surface bullshyt like guns. Guns don't kill people, People kill People. Instead of focusing on WHY they killed we worrying about how they did it.
VerbalIntercourse
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Crazy people are born with screws loose in their brains. How society supposed to fix that without euthanasia? It's impossible.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
proper diagnosis for one. outpatient treatment and medication. Society ignores the mentally ill until they start bussing their guns or pushing people on train tracks. 
VerbalIntercourse
Banned
Why pay to fix something that cannot be fixed?
a 100 dollar abortion vs. 1,000,000 dollars in Medicare costs. I think the choice is obvious.
If we are to have some nationalized health care system, then the cost burdened to the people should have the highest priority.
I see no reason to help those with chronic incurable illnesses, the mentally ill or the elderly. Let them die. Medicine doesn't offer in Amazing miracles for anyone. The community shouldn't suffer because some selfish family wants their loved ones to live on the tax payer's dime. Fukk all that non-sense.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
How much IS a childs life worth to you? 1 million? 2 million? 10 million?
VerbalIntercourse
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How much IS a childs life worth to you? 1 million? 2 million? 10 million?
It depends on the child. I guess a smart child would be worth the Net Present Value of the Annual output (maybe income would be a rough approximate) of an Engineer or some other Profession.
Some Idiot kid would be worth the NPV of an average low skilled worker.
the biggest problem with healthcare is simply, the cost. something like half the bankruptcies in america are because of medical bills. 
that being said these shootings are a much more complex issue then a broken health care system.
that being said these shootings are a much more complex issue then a broken health care system.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
the biggest problem with healthcare is simply, the cost. something like half the bankruptcies in america are because of medical bills.
that being said these shootings are a much more complex issue then a broken health care system.
health care bankrupts nikkas because its a monopoly. It's the last industry where there is no foriegn competition. the can charge whatever they want. they charge $175.00 for some pills you can get in the store for $25.00. How sad is it when Illegal immigrants can come over and get their free health care in the ER but regular americans will get a bill in the mail a few weeks later.
The shootings aren't complex. It's a failure in the household plain and simple. Failure to raise your kid's properly, failure to identify or give a shyt that your child has issues and needs help and failure to take action.
I agree with the OP. I think our society doesn't get that a healthy population is similar to an educated population. Reduces the cost to society in the long run. I think our lives in the US being lived with the constant beat of capitalism and independence in our ear makes us believe in short term things and quick fixes. Its like running a factory. If you only wait until things break to fix them, you will always have broken parts. That will cost you a ton of money and the repair people will continue to raise the price as repair goes from service to a needed commodity. Instead, you create a team, or hire a team that does preventative maintenance. Yes, you hate to pay it monthly, but it prevents a lot of problems in the long run.
Yes, I think it is pretty close to being that simple. I would however add that the problem with gun laws is that they are never allowed to really work. I understand the concept of states rights, but when one state has certain rules and another have different rules, it will always be hard to enforce anything. I know you will never take guns away from people(as if people could really hold off an alien invasion, our military or the Mexican drug cartels from taking over your hood if they forced their way in) but to continue to act like easy access to devices only made to kill doesn't mean anything to these situations is just ridiculous.
Which leads to another part of the problem. The American attitude. Our negativity towards the imperfect. Our race to haves and have nots. I will leave that to that as the semester just ended and I don't want to be philosophical until next semester.
Yes, I think it is pretty close to being that simple. I would however add that the problem with gun laws is that they are never allowed to really work. I understand the concept of states rights, but when one state has certain rules and another have different rules, it will always be hard to enforce anything. I know you will never take guns away from people(as if people could really hold off an alien invasion, our military or the Mexican drug cartels from taking over your hood if they forced their way in) but to continue to act like easy access to devices only made to kill doesn't mean anything to these situations is just ridiculous.
Which leads to another part of the problem. The American attitude. Our negativity towards the imperfect. Our race to haves and have nots. I will leave that to that as the semester just ended and I don't want to be philosophical until next semester.
Diagnosis is not the problem. These muderers are usualy diagnosed and on treatments. The problem is they still have easy access to guns.
The common theme you see in these shootings is the shooter was mentally disturbed AND he had easy access to guns. You never hear a story about them riding through the streets to buy the guns off some thugs. They always get the guns from a family member or they buy them legally themselves. If we are gonna get serious about mental health we have to be serious about limiting these people's access to guns.
I wonder how long until Gundam is on the news for shooting up
a place? fukking Sociopath.
a place? fukking Sociopath.
VerbalIntercourse
Banned
Why would I shoot up any place? School shooters are usually a bunch of losers that blame society for their misfortunes.
That's a product of the liberal way of thinking. It's society's fault, or it's the fault of "our system". The OP is finding a reason that society has failed. Why? Because he's a faggit liberal.
No, the misfortune of individual is due to his own choices or his own poor genetics. If I am unfortunate in life( which I'm not thankfully) then I could only blame myself or my parents. In that situation, It would be appropriate for me to kill myself.
I would never kill anyone unless in self defense. I would never kill myself either because only pussies give up on life. When adversity comes your way, you get through that shyt like a man and roll with punches.