Huff Post:"6 things Christians should stop saying" and a Response

[valet]

Steve McSwain: 6 Things Christians Should Just Stop Saying

And here a response to #3 .

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[Snitchin Splatter]

Trash article. This man calls himself a Christian in the same sentence saying he doesn't believe Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Not possible and he seems to be very confused about what he truly believes, as it is not Christianity

that is actually a great response video I'm watching it now. Too many people try to take singular bible verses out of context with no understanding of what the entirety of the chapter/book was about

 

[Brown_Pride]

It's sorta like a Jehovah's witness calling themselves a Christian. By definition you MUST believe this or you're not a Christian, you're something else that resembles Christianity MINUS the key tenant of Christianity, that being that Jesus is the Son of God and died for your salvation so that THROUGH JESUS your sins would be forgiven.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

It's sorta like a Jehovah's witness calling themselves a Christian. By definition you MUST believe this or you're not a Christian, you're something else that resembles Christianity MINUS the key tenant of Christianity, that being that Jesus is the Son of God and died for your salvation so that THROUGH JESUS your sins would be forgiven.

But Jehovah's Witnesses believe that though.

 

[Brown_Pride]

But Jehovah's Witnesses believe that though.

that jesus is the son of God? They believe he's the angel Michael.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

It's sorta like a Jehovah's witness calling themselves a Christian. By definition you MUST believe this or you're not a Christian, you're something else that resembles Christianity MINUS the key tenant of Christianity, that being that Jesus is the Son of God and died for your salvation so that THROUGH JESUS your sins would be forgiven.

Have you ever studied Christianity?

There has long been debate over the divinity of Jesus. You acting like it's not an issue only shows your own ignorance. You have no authority to judge who's what and hand out titles. There are many who would say you're not a Christian, but a follower of Paul.



I would also like to point out that the guy in the video is also using "someone's interpretation" to even have John 14:6 available in the English language in the first place so why does his or your interpretation, or the person who oringally interpreted "your" interpretation, hold more weight than anyone else's?

 

[Brown_Pride]

Have you ever studied Christianity?

There has long been debate over the divinity of Jesus. You acting like it's not an issue only shows your own ignorance. You have no authority to judge who's what and hand out titles. There are many who would say you're not a Christian, but a follower of Paul.



I would also like to point out that the guy in the video is also using "someone's interpretation" to even have John 14:6 available in the English language in the first place so why does his or your interpretation, or the person who oringally interpreted "your" interpretation, hold more weight than anyone else's?

nah see now we're arguing semantics. The title i'm handing out is not my title to hand out, it's what defines christianity....literally

Christianity: The religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies

... Well i guess technically JW COULD call themselves Christians, but so could I if I decided to call myself Christ...ultimately though we are arguing semantics. I do not consider JW christians based on my understanding of what a CHRISTIAN is.

I hear and have heard your argument, the majority of my family are JW.

By your arguments Mormons are also Christians because they worship someone called Jesus.

Using that loose definition some dude in Mexico named Jesus could have someone bow to him and you'd call that guy a christian?

What is a "christian"?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

nah see now we're arguing semantics. The title i'm handing out is not my title to hand out, it's what defines christianity....literally

Christianity: The religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies

... Well i guess technically JW COULD call themselves Christians, but so could I if I decided to call myself Christ...ultimately though we are arguing semantics. I do not consider JW christians based on my understanding of what a CHRISTIAN is.

I hear and have heard your argument, the majority of my family are JW.

By your arguments Mormons are also Christians because they worship someone called Jesus.

Using that loose definition some dude in Mexico named Jesus could have someone bow to him and you'd call that guy a christian?

What is a "christian"?

"Defines Christianity" based on whose definition?

Whose interpretation are we talking about here? Jesus'? Paul's? King James'? Charles Taze Russell's? Joseph Smith's?

JW's and Mormons are talking about the same Jesus Baptists and Catholics are talking about, not some guy in Mexico. Nice try though. It's like one person saying OJ is a murderer and another person saying he's not. Same OJ though.


A Christian would be a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. What Jesus' teachings actually were is where the debate begins.

 

[The Real]

"Defines Christianity" based on whose definition?

Whose interpretation are we talking about here? Jesus'? Paul's? King James'? Charles Taze Russell's? Joseph Smith's?

JW's and Mormons are talking about the same Jesus Baptists and Catholics are talking about, not some guy in Mexico. Nice try though. It's like one person saying OJ is a murderer and another person saying he's not. Same OJ though.


A Christian would be a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. What Jesus' teachings actually were is where the debate begins.

I mean, I can see why particular sects feel the need to categorically exclude others, (Protestants saying Catholics aren't Christians, Catholics saying JWs aren't Christians, etc.) but this definition seems to be the most accurate. It's the only thing that unites all the sects.

 

[Brown_Pride]

"Defines Christianity" based on whose definition?

Whose interpretation are we talking about here? Jesus'? Paul's? King James'? Charles Taze Russell's? Joseph Smith's?

JW's and Mormons are talking about the same Jesus Baptists and Catholics are talking about, not some guy in Mexico. Nice try though. It's like one person saying OJ is a murderer and another person saying he's not. Same OJ though.


A Christian would be a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. What Jesus' teachings actually were is where the debate begins.

I guess you just skimmed over my post or you'd have seen the answer to your question before you asked it.

... Well i guess technically JW COULD call themselves Christians, but so could I if I decided to call myself Christ...ultimately though we are arguing semantics. I do not consider JW christians based on my understanding of what a CHRISTIAN is.

And If you deny the divinity of Jesus then we clearly aren't talking about the same dude...

It's not like it's Jesus vs Jesus with an afro and a mustache. We're talking about Jesus THE MAN vs Jesus THE GOD, in Man Form.

Worlds of difference, clearly not the same person.

Again, based on my understanding and belief in Jesus and that of well the vast majority of those who believe in JC. JC is the Son of God and is part of the trinity.

So yes anything NOT that, TO ME and A SHYT TON OF PEOPLE, ain't Christian

 

[Brown_Pride]

I mean, I can see why particular sects feel the need to categorically exclude others, (Protestants saying Catholics aren't Christians, Catholics saying JWs aren't Christians, etc.) but this definition seems to be the most accurate. It's the only thing that unites all the sects.

Again the problem is that a lot of the times It's not the same guy.

Catholics, Protestants, Baptists and other Christians of that "cloth" all believe in the SAME GUY...subtle Dogmatic differences set them appart

Mormons and JW believe in an entirely different guy. Same name, a lot of the same features.

It'd be like if someone who looked EXACTLY identical to your Pops came in, did everything like your pops, but at night, right before bed, had to plug himself in because he was giant robot. Now one could say it IS your pops, you know it's not. Same thing here.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I guess you just skimmed over my post or you'd have seen the answer to your question before you asked it.


And If you deny the divinity of Jesus then we clearly aren't talking about the same dude...

It's not like it's Jesus vs Jesus with an afro and a mustache. We're talking about Jesus THE MAN vs Jesus THE GOD, in Man Form.

Worlds of difference, clearly not the same person.

Again, based on my understanding and belief in Jesus and that of well the vast majority of those who believe in JC. JC is the Son of God and is part of the trinity.

So yes anything NOT that, TO ME and A SHYT TON OF PEOPLE, ain't Christian

You're talking about the same guy. One person thinks he was divine, the other doesn't. That doesn't make 2 different guys, only 2 different view points.


Somebody may like a movie and the next man might say it sucks. Still the same movie. I can give you a million examples like this. What you're saying, "not the same guy", is nothing short of ludicrous.



Oh, and sorry to break it to you but your opinion is just that. No one cares who YOU think is a Christian or not.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

that jesus is the son of God? They believe he's the angel Michael.

JW's believe that Jesus is the "only-begotten Son of God". They also believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael.

They are nontrinitarian and don't believe Jesus HIMSELF is God along with plenty of other Christian denominations.

You can't make up your own definition for Christian.

 

[thekingsmen]

#6 is the worst.