How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[AquaCityBoy]

Y'all aren't mad about that.

I'm honestly not even mad

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[DEAD7]

Democracy was delivered a fatal blow in the US when the sitting US president at the time cast doubt on the legitimacy of the country's electoral process. The question is how much time until it bleeds out? Politics is like sports now to people. Our side their side no morality just winners and loses and you win by any means necessary. If you lose the refs cheated you even if for 3 quarters you played like shyt.

 

[Pressure]

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Nah, Biden is a moderate. He ran as a moderate. And he won as a moderate.

I fully expect him to try and work with Republicans because he's been adamant about it and ultimately end up passing most of his major legislation through reconciliation.

I also accept that moderates also won seats and they also want to work with Republicans if at all possible to the point that we've heard guys like manchin say they won't pass these simple majority votes if he doesn't at least try.

We all knew this going into it. So I don't see any value in getting upset over it now. If you want to see more radical action in congress then you're going to need to pick up enough seats to neutralize folks like manchin.

Instead of constantly trying to make Biden something he isn't in the name Of holding him accountable, why not actually ask him for a timeline for his initiatives and critique it?

Calling people Republicans or attempting to call them Trump supporters because they accept the current reality is still amusing though.

 

[Red Shield]

Democracy was delivered a fatal blow in the US when the sitting US president at the time cast doubt on the legitimacy of the country's electoral process. The question is how much time until it bleeds out? Politics is like sports now to people. Our side their side no morality just winners and loses and you win by any means necessary. If you lose the refs cheated you even if for 3 quarters you played like shyt.

I dunno..... there are other points in the usa's history where you could say democracy was delivered a fatal blow.


think the current shyt is just making something that was always there, more obvious.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Five Justices Did This Because They Could



Oh wow

have you guys read this or maybe you were aware of it?

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

Manchin doing right by his constituents again.

Dems should hang that shyt around his next and blast it all over WV

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Democracy was delivered a fatal blow in the US when the sitting US president at the time cast doubt on the legitimacy of the country's electoral process. The question is how much time until it bleeds out? Politics is like sports now to people. Our side their side no morality just winners and loses and you win by any means necessary. If you lose the refs cheated you even if for 3 quarters you played like shyt.

I'm worried about this too. A substantial amount of the country doesn't even believe the current president is holding office legitimately. We are going to see some long term consequences of this.

 

[Ozymandeas]

That wasn’t what either post said

Your commentary is not needed. I quoted what you wrote already

I would pay serious money to see you pseudo-intellectuals say something in real life then try to tell a room you didn't say it.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Wrong. Biden never made a comment in that speech about Manchin's intransigence. This is the comment we've all been talking about:



Here's the transcript of the entire presser: Remarks by President Biden in Press Conference | The White House

The first two questions he receives deal with being blocked by Manchin and Sinema and his response isn't surprise or frustration with them, it's to say he's content with what Manchin and Sinema have allowed him to pass and pivot to crapping on Republicans.




This has been the mainstream take in response to Biden's presser. But yea, if me and other posters with cheeto stains and funyun breath easily predicted at the beginning of his Presidency that he would not be able to garner Republican support for his agenda and that the Congressional process was a fundamentally broken (ie. filibuster) method for enacting substantial change so extra-Congressionals means (ie. EOs) would be needed to be deployed, then yeah Biden and apparently you were incredibly naive to not know that. This was a large part of Elizabeth Warren's entire pitch, and we've been touting the First Day Agenda since before Biden was elected. We were talking about the need to get around Manchin's veto since even before the Georgie runoffs. You just weren't paying attention.


That's not what those posts were implying. No one is surprised that Biden got ARP and BIF passed because they're not fundamentally transformational legislations and were within the bounds of what Manchin and Sinema were easily willing to swallow. When Biden had to do some arm twisting to get the bigger pillar of his already watered down agenda passed, he got tossed around like a hoe. That level of disrespect was surprising. We knew it was always a ridiculous joke when Biden said he could bring the country together and get Republicans on his side with bipartisanship, and the punchline is he couldn't even get his own party together to pass his tepid agenda. You get it now?

I see through you and @mastermind. You got an army of followers on here dapping up everything you say but, in reality, you're not special. I don't need you to tell me what you said. I quoted what you said. You would sound dumb in real life being recorded on tape saying something then telling people you didn't say that. You were quoted as saying "I thought Biden would be able to whip Joe Manchin" and "Biden's whole persona is being the Senate Whisperer." That contradicts this pretentious arrogant bullshyt you're sprouting right now about how it should have been obvious to everyone that Biden's proposals would fail in the Senate. Obviously it wasn't obvious to you or you wouldn't have typed that You are a Monday Morning Quarterback. You were surprised like everyone else. You're not special

Think for five seconds on what you just wrote. Why would 80 million Americans vote for Biden if it was OBVIOUS to everyone that Biden would get steamrolled by Manchin, Sinema and the Republicans. If it was OBVIOUS that the strategy was a failure in the making, wouldn't the people have simply voted for someone that would be more aggressive? The math is not mathing. You know why your argument doesn't make sense. The average voter/person didn't even know who Manchin or Sinema was in 2019 (even though their nefarious plans were all supposedly obvious) the same way the average person doesn't know who Jon Tester and Pat Toomey are right now or Bennie Thompson or Elise Stefanik to use the House. You expecting average people to know and understand the inner workings of Congress and make perfect predictions is naive

And lastly. I don't need you to lecture me on anything. One of my best friends works for the current administration and directly interacts with all the people yall spend hours debating about. There is nothing your ass can tell me

 

[winb83]

I dunno..... there are other points in the usa's history where you could say democracy was delivered a fatal blow.


think the current shyt is just making something that was always there, more obvious.

How long can a country survive when half of it believes if the candidate they supported lost that the process was cheated? At a fundamental level just like a sports team these people don't care if the game is actually fair or not just as long as the call goes their way that's all that matters to them.

People's core sense of identity is wrapped up in political parties. A good chunk of our populace is literally rebelling against life saving medical advancements because of politics.

I'm worried about this too. A substantial amount of the country doesn't even believe the current president is holding office legitimately. We are going to see some long term consequences of this.

I'll take it a step further than saying they don't believe. They don't care. We've reached a point that this isn't about legitimate elections they just want the election to produce a result that's desirable to them. Any election that doesn't produce the result they want is illegitimate even if it isn't.

 

[mastermind]

I would pay serious money to see you pseudo-intellectuals say something in real life then try to tell a room you didn't say it.

This rockhead

 

[King Kreole]

I see through you and @mastermind. You got an army of followers on here dapping up everything you say but, in reality, you're not special. I don't need you to tell me what you said. I quoted what you said. You would sound dumb in real life being recorded on tape saying something then telling people you didn't say that. You were quoted as saying "I thought Biden would be able to whip Joe Manchin" and "Biden's whole persona is being the Senate Whisperer." That contradicts this pretentious arrogant bullshyt you're sprouting right now about how it should have been obvious to everyone that Biden's proposals would fail in the Senate. Obviously it wasn't obvious to you or you wouldn't have typed that You are a Monday Morning Quarterback. You were surprised like everyone else. You're not special

Think for five seconds on what you just wrote. Why would 80 million Americans vote for Biden if it was OBVIOUS to everyone that Biden would get steamrolled by Manchin, Sinema and the Republicans. If it was OBVIOUS that the strategy was a failure in the making, wouldn't the people have simply voted for someone that would be more aggressive? The math is not mathing. You know why your argument doesn't make sense. The average voter/person didn't even know who Manchin or Sinema was in 2019 (even though their nefarious plans were all supposedly obvious) the same way the average person doesn't know who Jon Tester and Pat Toomey are right now or Bennie Thompson or Elise Stefanik to use the House. You expecting average people to know and understand the inner workings of Congress and make perfect predictions is naive

And lastly. I don't need you to lecture me on anything. One of my best friends works for the current administration and directly interacts with all the people yall spend hours debating about. There is nothing your ass can tell me

ok have a nice week brother.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

According to Time Magazine, when Biden went to speak to the Senate Dem caucus, he didn't even look at or mention Sinema despite her tanking the voting rights bill right before.

. Manchin and Sinema punked this dude so bad he can't even make eye contact.

 

[Mook]

You can't deny though that he spent of lot of his campaign talking about how he could get Republicans to work with him.

Not really a good look to even be saying that when it was obviously not going to happen.

He also forgot when they said it was for 2g the stimulus then juelzed and said it was only up to 2000. The people got hood winked like crazy.

 

[douche]