How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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Afghanistan isn't "falling" it's finding a natural social and political equilibrium absent America. The alternative is perpetual colonization. After a trillion dollars and the longest war in American history, I don't know how anyone can say the issue is a lack of "care" or "effort". I'm not accusing you of doing this, but the crocodile tears from MIC propagandists is annoying beyond belief.

If Hezbollah or Iran took over Israel, would the US walk away? If you cant answer yes to that question then I don’t understand how you can argue. It doesn’t have to be perpetual colonization. We just need to end wars correctly instead of leaving a mess that will bite us down the line. This is all arbitrary. Why at this exact moment do we have to leave? If we been there for 20 years already, being there for another few years until we perfected the situation wouldn’t hurt us. We already invested the time. Leaving it fukked up means we’re essentially throwing everything we did in the garbage.
 

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I don’t see how you cant see the comparison. Israel is in the vipers nest being next to multiple powers that would’ve overran it completely without our involvement. There is no way Israel would’ve fought off Iran if we had abandoned the region historically. We give aid to Israel each year. We fund their military, we funded the Iron Dome and we likely gave Israel nukes or the resources to acquire nukes under the table. How are you not seeing the comparison? So yes. When it benefits us, we will ensure that a country does not fall to adversaries. So like I said, don’t say we can’t. We just decided the juice isn’t worth the squeeze when it comes to Afghanistan.

There's at least one major difference.

The average Israelite doesn't consider themselves occupied by the USA nor do they harbor animosity towards the USA. They see the USA as a helpful partner and almost a tool in some respects.

On the other hand, an enormous % of Afghani civilians, even ones with no allegiance to the Taliban, have considered themselves invaded and occupied by the USA and harbor immense animosity towards the USA. It is possible that long-term American occupation is not long-term productive to decreasing the Taliban's influence, because it sets up the Taliban as the good guys in too many people's eyes.


Do you know much about Afghanistan before Soviet and American wars? It was nothing like this. The Taliban would be fringe figures if not for what Cold War powers did to the country during that period. Reminds me of the Khmer Rouge, who were just powerless marginalized rebels in the jungle until the USA fukked up Cambodia's moderate-socialist government so bad that the Khmer Rouge eventually became the main opposition and then took the country over when the USA left, with horrific consequences for the people. Same shyt happen to Iran, where the mullahs wouldn't have power if America hadn't fukked shyt up for the secular socialist leader who was governing over a modern Iran back in the day. America has done similar shyt in African and Central American nations too.
 

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If Hezbollah or Iran took over Israel, would the US walk away? If you cant answer yes to that question then I don’t understand how you can argue. It doesn’t have to be perpetual colonization. We just need to end wars correctly instead of leaving a mess that will bite us down the line. This is all arbitrary. Why at this exact moment do we have to leave? If we been there for 20 years already, being there for another few years until we perfected the situation wouldn’t hurt us. We already invested the time. Leaving it fukked up means we’re essentially throwing everything we did in the garbage.
Perfect?

if we knew the answer we would already have done it. There simply are no guarantees. Why Leaving Vietnam it turns into a prosperous, thriving country but staying at the border of North Korea leaves it at a stalemate of a nuclear dictatorship?
 

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I don’t see how you cant see the comparison. Israel is in the vipers nest being next to multiple powers that would’ve overran it completely without our involvement. There is no way Israel would’ve fought off Iran if we had abandoned the region historically. We give aid to Israel each year. We fund their military, we funded the Iron Dome and we likely gave Israel nukes or the resources to acquire nukes under the table. How are you not seeing the comparison? So yes. When it benefits us, we will ensure that a country does not fall to adversaries. So like I said, don’t say we can’t. We just decided the juice isn’t worth the squeeze when it comes to Afghanistan.
No, I don't see the comparison. We had a hand in creating Israel itself. We have always been allies. That is not the case with Afghanistan. Far from it.
 

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There's at least one major difference.

The average Israelite doesn't consider themselves occupied by the USA nor do they harbor animosity towards the USA. They see the USA as a helpful partner and almost a tool in some respects.

On the other hand, an enormous % of Afghani civilians, even ones with no allegiance to the Taliban, have considered themselves invaded and occupied by the USA and harbor immense animosity towards the USA. It is possible that long-term American occupation is not long-term productive to decreasing the Taliban's influence, because it sets up the Taliban as the good guys in too many people's eyes.


Do you know much about Afghanistan before Soviet and American wars? It was nothing like this. The Taliban would be fringe figures if not for what Cold War powers did to the country during that period. Reminds me of the Khmer Rouge, who were just powerless marginalized rebels in the jungle until the USA fukked up Cambodia's moderate-socialist government so bad that the Khmer Rouge eventually became the main opposition and then took the country over when the USA left, with horrific consequences for the people. Same shyt happen to Iran, where the mullahs wouldn't have power if America hadn't fukked shyt up for the secular socialist leader who was governing over a modern Iran back in the day. America has done similar shyt in African and Central American nations too.
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing happened in Iran. The US, through the Shah, killed and imprisoned all the leftists which lead to the rise of the Islamic republic.

The only time US intervention worked was after WW2.
 

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There's at least one major difference.

The average Israelite doesn't consider themselves occupied by the USA nor do they harbor animosity towards the USA. They see the USA as a helpful partner and almost a tool in some respects.

On the other hand, an enormous % of Afghani civilians, even ones with no allegiance to the Taliban, have considered themselves invaded and occupied by the USA and harbor immense animosity towards the USA. It is possible that long-term American occupation is not long-term productive to decreasing the Taliban's influence, because it sets up the Taliban as the good guys in too many people's eyes.


Do you know much about Afghanistan before Soviet and American wars? It was nothing like this. The Taliban would be fringe figures if not for what Cold War powers did to the country during that period. Reminds me of the Khmer Rouge, who were just powerless marginalized rebels in the jungle until the USA fukked up Cambodia's moderate-socialist government so bad that the Khmer Rouge eventually became the main opposition and then took the country over when the USA left, with horrific consequences for the people. Same shyt happen to Iran, where the mullahs wouldn't have power if America hadn't fukked shyt up for the secular socialist leader who was governing over a modern Iran back in the day. America has done similar shyt in African and Central American nations too.
Its almost as if its by design...
 

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do you non-strategic dikkheads ever think ahead?

i'm saying HUNTER BIDEN is going to be a big fukking problem IF we lose the House. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if the scandal is bullshyt.

You clearly didnt learn anything from Benghazi.

Remember when you were going crazy over the laptop in the final days of the election and it turned out no one gave a fukk...as we all predicted. Stop it. This is just #content for you. More reason to post, more reason for people to quote you.
 

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Take off the caps lock joker. If they shouldn't focus on it, what are you bringing it up for talking about losing seats?

Hunter could start fukking goats next week. If they can't point to accomplishments which is why this 3.5 T deal is ridiculously important they won't have a leg to stand on next year.
Joe Biden won't be the reason dems don't succeed in midterms. :manny:
 

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Afghanistan's geography and demographics make it much harder to unify than a country like Israel. Afghanistan is about 75% mountainous (and high elevation) with a diverse range of ethnic groups. There's pretty much no sense of "Afghan pride/unity" because "Afghans" don't think of themselves as "Afghans". The modern borders of Afghanistan was created by the British & Russian Empires in the late 19th century while they were playing colonial games with each other. Obviously, the Brits & Russkies didn't care about the differences between the different ethnic groups in the region.
 

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Remember when you were going crazy over the laptop in the final days of the election and it turned out no one gave a fukk...as we all predicted. Stop it. This is just #content for you. More reason to post, more reason for people to quote you.
I did not want there to be any reason for Trump to win.

Republicans (cause yall dont pay attention to them) are literally telling you they will do a Benghazi over Hunter Biden if we lose the House.
 

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I did not want there to be any reason for Trump to win.

Republicans (cause yall dont pay attention to them) are literally telling you they will do a Benghazi over Hunter Biden if we lose the House.

Who cares. Literally. Who cares. They're going to do Benghazi investigations over multiple things if they take the House. Including the validity of the election. Including Ukraine. Including impeaching Biden. It's all going to happen regardless. Who fukking cares. The goal should be Biden and democrats getting shyt done and making people's lives better, hoping they can survive. The problem is that doesn't seem to be going well. And even with an infrastructure bill and a big "human infrastructure" bill you're still going to have people drowning in rent debt, student loans (that Biden refuses to get rid of, for some folks), voting rights (an issue I think is over hyped but clearly many people care about it), etc.

They're sleep walking into a sucker punch. The census seems to suggest it won't be as bad as people thought but the end result will still PROBABLY be losing the house.
 

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do you non-strategic dikkheads ever think ahead?

i'm saying HUNTER BIDEN is going to be a big fukking problem IF we lose the House. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if the scandal is bullshyt.

You clearly didnt learn anything from Benghazi.
People hated Hillary, it doesn't matter what the story was they were looking for reasons not to vote for her.. For Hunter to become an issue, people have to start disliking Biden first. If Biden does what he's supposed to it's not an issue....get it dummy?
Who cares. Literally. Who cares. They're going to do Benghazi investigations over multiple things if they take the House. Including the validity of the election. Including Ukraine. Including impeaching Biden. It's all going to happen regardless. Who fukking cares. The goal should be Biden and democrats getting shyt done and making people's lives better, hoping they can survive. The problem is that doesn't seem to be going well. And even with an infrastructure bill and a big "human infrastructure" bill you're still going to have people drowning in rent debt, student loans (that Biden refuses to get rid of, for some folks), voting rights (an issue I think is over hyped but clearly many people care about it), etc.

They're sleep walking into a sucker punch. The census seems to suggest it won't be as bad as people thought but the end result will still PROBABLY be losing the house.
Thank you
 

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I see the Dems voted along with the ReThugs 99-0 to punish local areas who defund the police

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