How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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It might not look like it, but Biden is winning
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No one should be confused as to the inadequacy of the Republicans’ latest counteroffer on the American Jobs Plan. Sure, it had a top-line number of $928 billion. But as the New York Times explains: “Senate Republicans on Thursday proposed spending less that one seventh of what President Biden has requested in his expansive $1.7 trillion infrastructure initiative, countering with $257 billion in new funding for roads, bridges and other public works.”

President Biden was nevertheless respectful toward Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.), the lead Republican negotiator on the infrastructure bill. White House press secretary Jen Psaki in a written statement used the most mild language imaginable in response. After praising Capito’s work, Psaki explained in a written statement:

[W]e remain concerned that their plan still provides no substantial new funds for critical job-creating needs, such as fixing our veterans’ hospitals, building modern rail systems, repairing our transit systems, removing dangerous lead pipes, and powering America’s leadership in a job-creating clean energy economy, among other things. Lastly, we are concerned that the proposal on how to pay for the plan remains unclear: we are worried that major cuts in COVID relief funds could imperil pending aid to small businesses, restaurants and rural hospitals using this money to get back on their feet after the crush of the pandemic.

Why so gentle when Republicans have done so little? There are a few reasons.

First, Biden and his team truly believe that the process is the point. Cordial dealings — even if unsuccessful — improve his ability to make gains, albeit down the road. Even if the negotiations fail, Capito will be a critical player on jobs, climate change, infrastructure, housing and more.

Second, on the same day that Capito issued the counteroffer, the Senate reached cloture on the Endless Frontier Act, a significant piece of legislation aimed at U.S. competitiveness. White House aides say this bill contains R&D investments for both the National Science Foundation and Energy Department totaling almost $100 billion. (Less than the $180 billion included in the American Jobs Plan, but still significant.)

The Endless Frontier Act also has new investments in manufacturing capacity, including support for regional technology hubs, Manufacturing USA and the Manufacturing Extension Partnership. These total about $14 billion, which is roughly equivalent to what Biden had in the American Jobs Plan for these items.

There is another $52 billion for supply chains, including for semiconductors. Again, this was in Biden’s jobs plan, albeit at a higher amount. In short, Biden does not care where he achieves his goals. It’s all “Build Back Better” to him.

Third, while Republicans object to any tax increase for the rich and corporations, Biden is out selling a populist economic message. “I believe this is our moment to rebuild an economy from the bottom up and the middle out,” he said on Thursday in Cleveland. “Not a trickle-down economy from the very wealthy. That has never benefited people who are at this college or any other place where they’re trying to make a living.” He argued his plans are already working, lifting growth projections and getting people back to work. He even pulled out a list of Republicans who voted against the rescue plan but have been touting its results.

If negotiations on the jobs plan break down because Republicans won’t ask corporations to pay a little more, Biden will certainly be happy to remind voters he got the child tax credit through in the American Rescue Plan, as well as the $1,400 checks to jump-start the economy. He can remind them that he wants items aimed strictly at working- and middle-class Americans — including rural voters — such as free community college and expanded broadband. Even if he “fails” in talks with Republicans (the same people who won’t even authorize a commission to look at Jan. 6), he still wins the political argument.

Biden wants to lower the level of hostility, get whatever he can from wherever he can to fulfill his agenda and make sure everyone knows who is for the little guy. Judging by that standard, he’s making solid progress.

:duck: getting your entire agenda blocked isn't "winning" no matter how you try to frame it

I hope one day we get a Democrat in office that's not afraid to criticize Republicans :mjcry: both Obama and Biden are completely terrified to say anything mean to them
 
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:duck: getting your entire agenda blocked isn't "Winning" no matter how you try to frame it

I hope one day we get a Democrat in office that's not afraid to criticize Republicans :mjcry: both Obama and Biden are completely terrified to say anything mean to them

Except Obama did and got viscerated for that, but whatever. A Democrat who goes scorched Earth will cause civil war, either governmentally or actually. That's how bad of a situation we are in being owned by powerful lobbying groups and having Republicans being the worst ideologically. Republican politicians and their voters are giddy for an actual civil war. They believe they are Lincoln. Look at what they do across the country in their shytty states. It's too late.

Anything we do will be used 1000 times worse against us. It's like if you have a 3 year old who has equal co-parenting powers. They are going to try to veto you and go off to eat chocolate cookies for breakfast lunch and dinner while shytting all over your floor.

It was hilarious and sad to me right before covid hit that Biden might win because if Biden wins and doesn't hold a true strong majority in the Senate nothing will get done and Republicans will easily win in 2024. (Nevermind that no other candidate was actually viable - Americans hate women, Jews, gays, and "socialists" - only an ancient white Christian man is acceptable.) If covid didn't hit we would probably have Trump as president right now. Consider that Democrats can't actually fix that. Look at what Obama had in terms of legislative potential in 2009 to 2010 and consider how little that gave us. Republicans then poisoned anything good that came out of those legislative successes for 6+ years. Obama tried to rule by executive order after 2010 and lost a lot of court cases and got the public riled up. Democrats have a true razor thin advantage right now and that's not enough clearly because Manchin and company are Lieberman 2.0.

That being said, some things are getting through. It's just that it won't be nearly enough.

Sorry, but without the Democrats having great legislative powers for a sustained period of time, the country is fukked. You guys are just participating in outrage porn. Well get used to that for the next decade or two as we slide into irrelevance and chaos. Now that Repubs made it clear they are on the gold path towards fascism and decay the country is not getting better.

Btw Biden can't go full Theodore Roosevelt and FDR because national conservatism came into being to counter that and successfully took over. Combined with Trump populism, Christianity, and uneducated racist white dorks...man. This generation is lost.
 

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another biden failure :snoop:

if only (insert politician we refuse to name) was president, then maybe we'd actually get something done :camby:

dems drop the ball, again


edit: schumer up there trying to talk spicy on the GQP now :mjgrin:
If only the POTUS could get 2 senators in his own party to kill the filibuster we wouldn't be here. That said his agenda is collapsing and his bipartisanship strategy has been a complete disaster. He's a one term POTUS at this rate. So much hope and promise has died these last 4 months. I fully expect them to remove all major parts of the voting rights bill and police reform and still have the republicans say no.
 

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If only the POTUS could get 2 senators in his own party to kill the filibuster we wouldn't be here. That said his agenda is collapsing and his bipartisanship strategy has been a complete disaster. He's a one term POTUS at this rate. So much hope and promise has died these last 4 months. I fully expect them to remove all major parts of the voting rights bill and police reform and still have the republicans say no.
surely (insert politician we refuse to name) would have been able to easily convince 2 senators in their own party to kill the filibuster :wow:
 

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surely (insert politician we refuse to name) would have been able to easily convince 2 senators in their own party to kill the filibuster :wow:
If the Democratic party had a leader with a spine like McConnell who puts party and power above all they would. They don't so here we are.:martin:
 
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